Ori and the Blind Forest

Ori and the Blind Forest

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Anyone else finds this game boring?
I've started playing this game twice already and I just don't find it enjoyable at all, and I am unable to complete it because of that. I am glad so many people like it, and I love the graphics, but I just find the gameplay boring. However, I don't know exactly why. There are many gameplay mechanics and they are introduced at the right time, but I feel like I am constantly doing the same thing over and over again. Does anyone else feel the same way?
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Abu Hajaar 14 mart. 2016 la 10:27 
Postat inițial de Boriz & Breadfan:

One thing that I can point to that is a small problem with Ori is the amount of combat options the players have later in the game. It's fine when you play it daily, but if you give yourself a week long breaks between each playing sessions (like I did), you tend to forget how to use your abilities. Maybe that's the reason why I kept using Spirit Flame so much, unless I was forced to do otherwise.

This is the cancer killing modern games - ''there were too many [insert gameplay element here], i got confused, please remove them''

For God's sake, it''s not even that complicated, where the ♥♥♥♥ is the problem here?
I've seen many examples of games being dumbed down because the people playing them are too braindead to remember 3 ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ button combos.
For more on this see Dishonored and Half life 2 playtesters.

Please stop ruining my hobby, thank you.
Boriz 14 mart. 2016 la 11:16 
Postat inițial de Inshallah:
For God's sake, it''s not even that complicated, where the ♥♥♥♥ is the problem here?

I've said it's a small problem and I've also said why I've had it, but let me clarify it better.
During my first playthrough I was playing the game for about 30 minutes every week or so. With such long breaks between short playing sessions you tend to forget advanced skills you've gained previously.
I'll just say this:
The combat is the least interesting part of the game. I'll agree that it's basically boring.
It is important to kill everything you see, however, in order to get the powerups.

I died a LOT in this game, and little of it involved monsters that I could kill with my combat powers. To say more would give spoilers, I think.

If you did not find ori interesting/fun within the first 30 minutes of gameplay, I'd say give it up. It doesn't get signifigantly better than that. I'd wager most people were hooked long before that.
I personally loved ori, finished it, plan to play the definitive edition on hard.

But hey, to each their own.

Xryleth 14 mart. 2016 la 15:07 
Okay, so first off, I'd disregard the comment of "if you don't like it within the first half hour, quit". While Ori is a fun enough game early on, it really starts to shine during/after the Ginso Tree, which is going to be an hour or two in. In your case, you've mentioned the flooding of the tree and enjoying that sequence, so it sounds like you've already made it past one of the hurdles people have with this game. It also suggests you got used to using Bash, which is good because much of the rest of the game revolves heavily around using it to boost off of enemies, and in a lot of those cases you either do not really have the option to kill the enemies you are bashing off of or it would be silly to try.

However, if you have Bash, but have not seen bird enemies, that means you have yet to enter the second area of the game, but may also have Stomp. The next two sections of the game are some of the more interesting locations in the game, to avoid spoiling anything about them I'll say the first is very atmospheric, and the second plays with physics. You'd be missing out a lot if you didn't at least try those areas, and if you enjoyed them enough you'd be approaching the end of the game anyway because then there'd just be two areas past that.
Editat ultima dată de Xryleth; 14 mart. 2016 la 15:22
seasalt 14 mart. 2016 la 21:06 
To be honest I've been having the same issue, but the soundtrack (which I agree is occasionally lacking substance at places, but I feel like that more of a stylistic choice, you know?), the graphics, and the overall atmosphere keeps me going.

I've also been taking large breaks, and while it can be sometimes confusing with the abilities when you don't play in months, you can always check your current skills by clicking on their bubble and it'll tell you how to use that particular skill.

While the story is pretty interesting, my spread out playing time and the emphasis on gameplay and exploration makes me lose track of what exactly is going on. And to be honest, I'm mostly playing the game for the experience and the atmosphere, and the gameplay is a vehicle for it. It is tedious, but I really enjoyed gameplay at times, since I haven't played a platformer in so long.

Still, I'd say at least continue until after you help the Misty Woods, maybe? I'm currently still in the area, but it takes a sharp turn gameplay and atmosphere once you get there, so hopefully it'll be more up to your speed. That's where a lot of the birds are (and you get more neat game mechanics).
Kevin Ryan 14 mart. 2016 la 21:32 
Postat inițial de author:
Wow, thanks for all the replies! Let me say real quick that this is how I feel about the game. A lot of effort went into creating this amazing experience, and the developers did a great job on this. However, I just feel like it's a bit overrated from gameplay perspective, but since nobody agrees me, then I guess I am wrong.

You're not wrong.

It's your cup of tea and if you don't like the way it tastes and you're not being a jerk to the people who made it for you (i.e. Moon Studios) then it's well within your right to have the opinions you do.

You'd only be wrong if you came on here and started being a f**k and proclaiming about how you uninstalled the game and so on.

But you didn't do that so you're good. lol
How the hell do you find it boring? This game left me so much on my hunger I had to look for similar games lol. :ori:
I'm probably going to be beaten up for saying this but.... I found boring Rayman Origins and Legends. The first one took me lots of time to be completed and the second didn't finished it. I always leave it after the third world.

I think it was because of the slow controls and their even slower response with input.

Ori is magnificent, I mean, damn! Speed movement is comfortable and controls are precise as hell with no input lag. I can't find it boring when controls are as comfortable as they are in Ori.
Editat ultima dată de Disgraciau; 15 mart. 2016 la 2:39
Boriz 16 mart. 2016 la 13:48 
Hello!
Sorry for the long time of silence people. I was too busy to put enough thought into writing a reply. Not that my posts are super intelectual, but I am a very slow writer.

Postat inițial de ChodTheWacko:
I'll just say this:
The combat is the least interesting part of the game. I'll agree that it's basically boring.
It is important to kill everything you see, however, in order to get the powerups.

I died a LOT in this game, and little of it involved monsters that I could kill with my combat powers. To say more would give spoilers, I think.

If you did not find ori interesting/fun within the first 30 minutes of gameplay, I'd say give it up. It doesn't get signifigantly better than that. I'd wager most people were hooked long before that.
I personally loved ori, finished it, plan to play the definitive edition on hard.

But hey, to each their own.

Same here. I died a lot later in the game. Good thing that the developers did the reload of the game so fast!
I'll give the game another try and see how far I get.

Postat inițial de Xryleth:
Okay, so first off, I'd disregard the comment of "if you don't like it within the first half hour, quit". While Ori is a fun enough game early on, it really starts to shine during/after the Ginso Tree, which is going to be an hour or two in. In your case, you've mentioned the flooding of the tree and enjoying that sequence, so it sounds like you've already made it past one of the hurdles people have with this game. It also suggests you got used to using Bash, which is good because much of the rest of the game revolves heavily around using it to boost off of enemies, and in a lot of those cases you either do not really have the option to kill the enemies you are bashing off of or it would be silly to try.

However, if you have Bash, but have not seen bird enemies, that means you have yet to enter the second area of the game, but may also have Stomp. The next two sections of the game are some of the more interesting locations in the game, to avoid spoiling anything about them I'll say the first is very atmospheric, and the second plays with physics. You'd be missing out a lot if you didn't at least try those areas, and if you enjoyed them enough you'd be approaching the end of the game anyway because then there'd just be two areas past that.

Thanks for the heads up!

Postat inițial de Clockwork™:
I've also been taking large breaks, and while it can be sometimes confusing with the abilities when you don't play in months, you can always check your current skills by clicking on their bubble and it'll tell you how to use that particular skill.

While the story is pretty interesting, my spread out playing time and the emphasis on gameplay and exploration makes me lose track of what exactly is going on. And to be honest, I'm mostly playing the game for the experience and the atmosphere, and the gameplay is a vehicle for it. It is tedious, but I really enjoyed gameplay at times, since I haven't played a platformer in so long.

Still, I'd say at least continue until after you help the Misty Woods, maybe? I'm currently still in the area, but it takes a sharp turn gameplay and atmosphere once you get there, so hopefully it'll be more up to your speed. That's where a lot of the birds are (and you get more neat game mechanics).

I don't think that I ever clicked on any bubbles to get to tips about skills. If this is supposed to help players like me who take long breaks between playing sessions, then it's kinda my fault for not using it as such :/

The story for me is a bit hard to follow. As a whole I don't find it particulary interesting, but all the cutscenes are done incredibly well, so it's still engaging on a 'moment to moment' level.

Postat inițial de Arniellico:
How the hell do you find it boring? This game left me so much on my hunger I had to look for similar games lol. :ori:

I just don't find it as exciting as it looks like. Good for you if you enjoy it so much!

Look up Heart Of Darkness. It's an old, but amazing platformer. I've played it on Windows 7 a few years back due to nostalgia :)
It has beautiful visuals and scary atmosphere. Also, the main (child) protagonist always dies in a horrible way :D
The gameplay is later a bit repetitive though.

Postat inițial de Disgraciau:
Ori is magnificent, I mean, damn! Speed movement is comfortable and controls are precise as hell with no input lag. I can't find it boring when controls are as comfortable as they are in Ori.

I remember swearing a few times due to some problems with controls, but other than that, 99% of the time the controls are perfect!

Anyway, I've asked colleages about this game at work and although everyone agrees that it looks amazing, those who played confirmed that they felt the same about it. They weren't very excited about it.
Void Opal 16 mart. 2016 la 18:32 
First playthrough, loved it, second playthrough while going for 100% completion due to the few things I missed and building a new computer, I just wasn't able to force myself to complete it.
I am most certantly happy with the experience I got the first playthrough, and I will happily support the developers in the future, just, the replayability of this game is lacking, and it really bothered me that there was no after completion free-roam, even though I know it would make no sense, it was just what I was hoping for after getting used to the controls, and enjoying the brilliantly flowing movement, especially within the Ginso tree, which is by far my favorite dungeon esc stage in any game I have played to date.
I can't wait for their followup that's coming out for Windows 7 soon :D
Editat ultima dată de Void Opal; 16 mart. 2016 la 18:33
Gryffe 17 mart. 2016 la 1:44 
You played Heart of Darkness ? You, sir, earned my respect. This game is like Oddworld : Abe exoddus / oddyssey, it just never gets old !

Anyway, I think you have the wrong view on ennemies. Your not suppose to kill them, but avoid them. It's especially true after you get the bash upgrade. From this point, ennemies become mere bumpers for you to breeze through the game, dancing like the wind !
SemiCat 17 mart. 2016 la 10:46 
Yeah in my first playthrough I literally killed every enemy, and had a sh*tload of extra experience points I didn't need because I had already maximized my skill trees. I'd say you'd really enjoy the game if you push yourself to do a supersonic playthrough at some point. (Sub three hours; without skipping areas of the game as many speedrunners do~) A truly thrilling experience, and you'd be forced to not kill everything since you simply won't have time. :P

And I agree it can be very annoying early on in the game when you have to repeat sections because you didn't have enough life/energy. However, I've found that life cells and energy cells are placed quite strategically throughout the game, so if I'm low on one I tend to find one; and not only does it refill my life or energy but boosts my overall capacity. I would also recommend prioritizing completing the last skill tree (which includes rekindle and triple jump) for it really improves your survivability, so you get less bogged down in problem areas.

I like how respectful you're being and how you're trying to take the good points from everyone's advice, so kudos to you! On an aside, I own Mark of the Ninja but haven't started it yet; that you liked it makes me think I should make it my next game. :) Best of luck getting into Ori, and as many here, my experience with it is fairly positive as well. First platformer video game I ever played, and boy it was a steep learning curve but oh so worth it.
CatuRRA 18 mart. 2016 la 20:29 
Maybe it's just not your kind of game
Postat inițial de CataPHR:
Maybe it's just not your kind of game
Not necessarily true. You can say like Metroid, But hate Castlevania. Or vice versa.

As for the OP's question, No i think it's an amazing game. It has pretty much everything i look for in a game. It's sad that you didn't like it. But hey there is probably something you like but i don't.

So you don't need to justify it, Well at least with me anyway.:)
Player 2 22 mart. 2016 la 16:03 
Postat inițial de randomizer:
Postat inițial de Boriz & Breadfan:
I think it's the way you kill most enemies:
1) Step close to the enemy
2) Spam LMB
3) Avoid attacks
4) Win!

I can appreciate how that would seem tedious. I can assure you that the enemies are merely a distraction. The real enemy is the environment. And the main antagonist... but mostly the environment.
Exactly.
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