The 275 Medicine perk...

[Liro Raériyo]

i just noticed it says personal, not surgeon or even party leader... think it can stack? by god if it can stack...

[Action Man]

I don't think so.

If you make a companion with that perk a party leader, I think it applies to the troops they are leading, the same way your perk applies to your party.

[Triple G]

It can´t stack, because You can only have one surgeon in the party. At least that´s my guess. As the perks are getting pulled from the party role. So in case of that perk, they could as well say that it´s connected to the party role, as it affects other people - while i´m unsure how much time it takes to level 2 guys to 275 if You don´t cheat it, in which case any perk has no meaning. Probably You will have conquered the map, when 1 guy is at 275. And on top i´m unsure about the attribute points which are required for it - if it´s about companions. So basically only Your family would be viable for it, while You probably also have conquered the map by the time Your first child comes to age - if You play slow, while Your younger sister and brother are the best party leaders You can get till then...

[Clovis Sangrail]

It's a party leader perk, not a surgeon perk -- https://www.bannerlordperks.com/perk;skill=medicine;perk=minister-of-health

[Liro Raériyo]

The reason i ask is because immortal charm is also a personal and it DOES work, each member in your clan that has it provides 5 influence, thats why im wondering if minister of health just... applies to every troop? i dont even mean just your party, it just says +1 hp to troops, no specification towards a party, if it affects all parties in the clan...

gosh i need to do some testing soon to see if it works like im thinking.

[Liro Raériyo]

Originally posted by Clovis Sangrail:

It's a party leader perk, not a surgeon perk -- https://www.bannerlordperks.com/perk;skill=medicine;perk=minister-of-health

That is very much outdated
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3270086729

[Triple G]

Originally posted by Liro Raériyo:

The reason i ask is because immortal charm is also a personal and it DOES work, each member in your clan that has it provides 5 influence, thats why im wondering if minister of health just... applies to every troop? i dont even mean just your party, it just says +1 hp to troops, no specification towards a party, if it affects all parties in the clan...

gosh i need to do some testing soon to see if it works like im thinking.

Immortal charm doesn´t need some party role to be active, and when it´s personal it of course adds to the clan´s influence, even if it only adds to the own influence.

It can´t affect all parties - again for the same reason.

But You can test it - then we have clear results. While i still think that in practice, and with normal play - You would rather end the campaign before two people would reach 275 medicine. I for myself ended the playthrough either shortly before, or shortly after i got that perk, and it´s usually Your 240 max tier units, vs the AI recruits, so they would outperform them without any of these perks anyways, while You on top have the captains...

I guess that the wording of the perk is misleading.

[Liro Raériyo]

Did some testing, it is indeed a personal skill but in the worst way possible, it does NOT matter if they have this skill even as the active surgeon it will NOT activate, meaning minister of health has to be obtained by the player in order to function.

well my dream of fielding an army of super peasants in a vanilla campaign is dead, but at least we know not to bother going all in on medicine for party members.

[Triple G]

Hmm - does it work for a party leader? Like another AI party, or is it hard to test? While i guess: no - if it doesn´t work for the surgeon, it wouldn´t work for an AI party leader.

Just asking, because the perk would be totally pointless in that case for anyone but the player character. Which is then even worse than i thought. They should then rename it from "personal" to "player character", which would be simple to do, so people wouldn´t need to spend time to figure that out.

[Liro Raériyo]

Ill work at that next, hopefully have some results in a couple hours