War Sails and Base game plans!

[TERRINCE 2100]

I'll be honest. I thought TaleWorlds completely abandoned M&B. The lack of info became clear that nothing was coming. But they've been cooking in the background and the new content and info sounds extremely promising. Can't wait to see what other new additions the base game will have.

[Teralitha]

Nope, the game was never abandoned. They just didnt say anything for awhile and people went bonkers.

[Nooby]

yes its great to hear that expansion coming out yet some still wanna cry and take the L

[PapaJakub]

I did kind of think the same thing. It was surprising not to see any DLC work on a pretty successful game.

[Uchiha Itachi あまてらす]

TW's product range consists of only M&B. And TW has a lot of employees. Therefore, TW's abandonment of the game is out of the question unless they develop a new game or closes down the company.

If we think about why they haven't talked about the roadmap they've drawn, they think they've been wrong stance on this issue in the past. For a unique and complex concept like M&B, saying "we plan or try to do this" is very risky and for this reason they've wasted so much time and credit in the past, especially in the EA phase.

My opinion is that TW is now aiming for definitive results instead of trying things.

[Ruffio]

Originally posted by Uchiha Itachi あまてらす:

TW's product range consists of only M&B. And TW has a lot of employees. Therefore, TW's abandonment of the game is out of the question unless they develop a new game or closes down the company.

If we think about why they haven't talked about the roadmap they've drawn, they think they've been wrong stance on this issue in the past. For a unique and complex concept like M&B, saying "we plan or try to do this" is very risky and for this reason they've wasted so much time and credit in the past, especially in the EA phase.

My opinion is that TW is now aiming for definitive results instead of trying things.

Well, out of trying things come concepts and mechanics that can get added in other ways. Such as what they will be adding from the dlc that didn't make it.

I'm no strong believer in roadmaps because devs can easily paint themselves into a corner doing that. They say they want to do something, doesn't manage to do it, and then get crap just the same. Shoulders up, hunker down and work until you have something to announce is better approach imho.

If you look at the gaming industry as whole, there is A LOT Of games that ended up never make it, or went through several iterations and ended up become something completely different than what it started out as.

[Uchiha Itachi あまてらす]

Originally posted by Ruffio:

Originally posted by Uchiha Itachi あまてらす:

TW's product range consists of only M&B. And TW has a lot of employees. Therefore, TW's abandonment of the game is out of the question unless they develop a new game or closes down the company.

If we think about why they haven't talked about the roadmap they've drawn, they think they've been wrong stance on this issue in the past. For a unique and complex concept like M&B, saying "we plan or try to do this" is very risky and for this reason they've wasted so much time and credit in the past, especially in the EA phase.

My opinion is that TW is now aiming for definitive results instead of trying things.

Well, out of trying things come concepts and mechanics that can get added in other ways. Such as what they will be adding from the dlc that didn't make it.

I'm no strong believer in roadmaps because devs can easily paint themselves into a corner doing that. They say they want to do something, doesn't manage to do it, and then get crap just the same. Shoulders up, hunker down and work until you have something to announce is better approach imho.

If you look at the gaming industry as whole, there is A LOT Of games that ended up never make it, or went through several iterations and ended up become something completely different than what it started out as.

Even though it is risky and the outcome is unknown, i think a roadmap is a must. If you tell your employees to bring you something concrete without showing them any goals, you will waste a lot of time and most likely will not get anything as a result :D

[Ruffio]

Originally posted by Uchiha Itachi あまてらす:

Even though it is risky and the outcome is unknown, i think a roadmap is a must. If you tell your employees to bring you something concrete without showing them any goals, you will waste a lot of time and most likely will not get anything as a result :D

I'm talking about public roadmaps. Not inhouse ones though.

Take a game such as Bellwright in early access atm. People are crying "give us roadmap"... devs.. "NO", and keep give out banger after banger of updates.

[TERRINCE 2100]

Originally posted by Ruffio:

Originally posted by Uchiha Itachi あまてらす:

Even though it is risky and the outcome is unknown, i think a roadmap is a must. If you tell your employees to bring you something concrete without showing them any goals, you will waste a lot of time and most likely will not get anything as a result :D

I'm talking about public roadmaps. Not inhouse ones though.

Take a game such as Bellwright in early access atm. People are crying "give us roadmap"... devs.. "NO", and keep give out banger after banger of updates.

How is Bellwright? I've been wanting to check it out. Does it have native controller support?

[Ruffio]

Originally posted by TERRINCE 2100:

Originally posted by Ruffio:

I'm talking about public roadmaps. Not inhouse ones though.

Take a game such as Bellwright in early access atm. People are crying "give us roadmap"... devs.. "NO", and keep give out banger after banger of updates.

How is Bellwright? I've been wanting to check it out. Does it have native controller support?

They added controller support, but its more of an addon than native. I have no problem play with keyboard and mouse. Combat is directional as with Bannerlord.

It's a story driven sandbox game. Goal is to recruit people to your cause and help liberate the lowlands from the oppression of the local lord (Story so far), all the while trying to find out what did happen to your father.

At core its a city builder, you fight bandits and brigands (the troops of the local lord). It's sort of have tower defense mechanics as your ill have regular raids on your village. Raids will increase in strength as your grow in size. Recruiting more people cost renown, and the cost keep go up the more people you recruit. You need to do research, harvest resources etc, build weapons, armors, food to keep your dudes feed and armed. But rather than you do all the crafting, collecting resources, you have your people do that for you. How effective they are depends on how effective you are at manage them though.

There is research roadblocks where you have to start liberate towns (villages), to be able to recruit people with profession to unlock it. Once you start liberate towns they will start have brigands reclamation parties incoming to take them back. These will be harder to fight than the initial bandit riff raff.

[TERRINCE 2100]

Originally posted by Ruffio:

Originally posted by TERRINCE 2100:

How is Bellwright? I've been wanting to check it out. Does it have native controller support?

They added controller support, but its more of an addon than native. I have no problem play with keyboard and mouse. Combat is directional as with Bannerlord.

It's a story driven sandbox game. Goal is to recruit people to your cause and help liberate the lowlands from the oppression of the local lord (Story so far), all the while trying to find out what did happen to your father.

At core its a city builder, you fight bandits and brigands (the troops of the local lord). It's sort of have tower defense mechanics as your ill have regular raids on your village. Raids will increase in strength as your grow in size. Recruiting more people cost renown, and the cost keep go up the more people you recruit. You need to do research, harvest resources etc, build weapons, armors, food to keep your dudes feed and armed. But rather than you do all the crafting, collecting resources, you have your people do that for you. How effective they are depends on how effective you are at manage them though.

There is research roadblocks where you have to start liberate towns (villages), to be able to recruit people with profession to unlock it. Once you start liberate towns they will start have brigands reclamation parties incoming to take them back. These will be harder to fight than the initial bandit riff raff.

It's sounds pretty awesome in all honesty. I'll definitely check it out soon. Thanks for the info.

[Ruffio]

Originally posted by TERRINCE 2100:

Originally posted by Ruffio:

They added controller support, but its more of an addon than native. I have no problem play with keyboard and mouse. Combat is directional as with Bannerlord.

It's a story driven sandbox game. Goal is to recruit people to your cause and help liberate the lowlands from the oppression of the local lord (Story so far), all the while trying to find out what did happen to your father.

At core its a city builder, you fight bandits and brigands (the troops of the local lord). It's sort of have tower defense mechanics as your ill have regular raids on your village. Raids will increase in strength as your grow in size. Recruiting more people cost renown, and the cost keep go up the more people you recruit. You need to do research, harvest resources etc, build weapons, armors, food to keep your dudes feed and armed. But rather than you do all the crafting, collecting resources, you have your people do that for you. How effective they are depends on how effective you are at manage them though.

There is research roadblocks where you have to start liberate towns (villages), to be able to recruit people with profession to unlock it. Once you start liberate towns they will start have brigands reclamation parties incoming to take them back. These will be harder to fight than the initial bandit riff raff.

It's sounds pretty awesome in all honesty. I'll definitely check it out soon. Thanks for the info.

The spring update is currently in beta testing. Devs are active on their discord and interacting with the community.

[unskilled-]

I wonder how many people are requesting Pirate themed armor and clothing so they can RP Jack Sparrow, lol.

[SJWs R TRAITORS]

Base game = small additions, like marriage etc, bug fixes and balancing.

The future for BL is .. DLC (war sales) , DLC (India?), DLC (China/Japanese?), DLC, DLC (my credit card is on FIRE!), DLC, DLC