Why is modding such a bad experience.

[Malakyte]

I love this game but it is the biggest cluster when it comes to modding. I've been playing on 1.2.10 for a while. I installed an RTS camera mod today and it just destroyed my game. Got stuck in a load screen nothing worked. I ended up having to uninstall and reinstall the game to get it to launch again.

Then I went back to my old mods and changed a setting on Spouses Expanded and now my game is stuck once again in the first loading screen. If I select launch in safe mode everything works.

[D-Tritus]

I bought the game and the same question arose. If I can't make a good build, I'll just refund the money and look for other ways to play...

[Darth Revan]

That sounds like an issue you need to bring up to the developers of the mod

[Ruffio]

Biggest issue with modding is between the chair and the keyboard -)

[Malakyte]

Originally posted by Ruffio:

Biggest issue with modding is between the chair and the keyboard -)

If that were true then non of my other games that I run heavily modded would work.

[Action Man]

If mods don't work or mess up your game after installing, that's a mod issue, not a game issue.

Bannerlord has multiple game versions available on steam, and this can cause confusion when trying to match mod versions and game versions. TW offers this so players can choose their own game version with whatever mods they want to use, but you have to do that little extra research to make sure the mod you want to use is compatible with the game version you are running.

[Malakyte]

Originally posted by Action Man:

If mods don't work or mess up your game after installing, that's a mod issue, not a game issue.

Bannerlord has multiple game versions available on steam, and this can cause confusion when trying to match mod versions and game versions. TW offers this so players can choose their own game version with whatever mods they want to use, but you have to do that little extra research to make sure the mod you want to use is compatible with the game version you are running.

yes but the thing is I already did that prior to installing RTS and everything was working fine for the last 2 weeks. Today I installed RTS and now everything has gone to ♥♥♥♥.

I already had a list of mods that were working and now I'm constantly getting stuck in the first load screen with the same mods that were working fine for the last 2 weeks. My game is still on 1.2.10 and my load order is exactly the same because I saved it before installing RTS incase something went wrong.

[Action Man]

Sounds like a mod issue. I've been using my mods on 1.2.10 for quite a while without issue. When adding/removing a mod, things can go do ♥♥♥♥. That's not the game's fault. TW has zero control over how modders make their mods.

You installed a new mod and things went south. Maybe something is wrong with that mod. Maybe it doesn't like another mod in your load order. Maybe it's the wrong mod version. Maybe Mars is in retrograde. TW can't really do anything about it.

[Malakyte]

Originally posted by Action Man:

Sounds like a mod issue. I've been using my mods on 1.2.10 for quite a while without issue. When adding/removing a mod, things can go do ♥♥♥♥. That's not the game's fault. TW has zero control over how modders make their mods.

You installed a new mod and things went south. Maybe something is wrong with that mod. Maybe it doesn't like another mod in your load order. Maybe it's the wrong mod version. Maybe Mars is in retrograde. TW can't really do anything about it.

I would agree if I hadn't already removed everything from my steam directory, documents and program data and installed a fresh version.

I couldn't even get a mod list and load order that I had working previously for about 50-80 hours working again.

Now the game is getting stuck on the load screen with only 4 mods installed, Harmony/ButterLib/UIExtender/Mod Config menu. Then if I turn them off it still hangs up.

Idk if the game is saving files in a weird spot or if its just spaghetti code.

[Waterworks]

I love realm of thrones mod. because you already know all the characers it makes you care about what happends

[Ruffio]

Originally posted by Malakyte:

Originally posted by Ruffio:

Biggest issue with modding is between the chair and the keyboard -)

If that were true then non of my other games that I run heavily modded would work.

Not every game is the same when it come to modding. I tend to play a heavy modded CK3, whenever they drop a dlc half of them will break no question. Other times a single patch can do the same. Other games is far more forgiving when it come to modding, so yes, the issue is between the keyboard and the chair. Personal responsibility when it come to modding.

[󠀡󠀡]

Originally posted by Malakyte:

I love this game but it is the biggest cluster when it comes to modding. I've been playing on 1.2.10 for a while. I installed an RTS camera mod today and it just destroyed my game. Got stuck in a load screen nothing worked. I ended up having to uninstall and reinstall the game to get it to launch again.

Then I went back to my old mods and changed a setting on Spouses Expanded and now my game is stuck once again in the first loading screen. If I select launch in safe mode everything works.

You should of seen how 'modding' a.k.a hacking because it cant be called modding in the first mountnblade, especially warband , also the editor there crashes 99% of the time , much like the one in this version..so tw is keeping tradition...

[Ruffio]

Originally posted by 󠀡󠀡:

Originally posted by Malakyte:

I love this game but it is the biggest cluster when it comes to modding. I've been playing on 1.2.10 for a while. I installed an RTS camera mod today and it just destroyed my game. Got stuck in a load screen nothing worked. I ended up having to uninstall and reinstall the game to get it to launch again.

Then I went back to my old mods and changed a setting on Spouses Expanded and now my game is stuck once again in the first loading screen. If I select launch in safe mode everything works.

You should of seen how 'modding' a.k.a hacking because it cant be called modding in the first mountnblade, especially warband , also the editor there crashes 99% of the time , much like the one in this version..so tw is keeping tradition...

Strange. I been observing the M&B modding discord for a few months now. If the editor for Bannerlord did crash 99% of the time. It doesn't really reflect that on discord and what people post and talk about. It's the same editor TaleWorld use inhouse. I dare suggest a lot of the time its operator failure, in regard of what is possible to do and what is not.

[Malakyte]

Originally posted by 󠀡󠀡:

Originally posted by Malakyte:

I love this game but it is the biggest cluster when it comes to modding. I've been playing on 1.2.10 for a while. I installed an RTS camera mod today and it just destroyed my game. Got stuck in a load screen nothing worked. I ended up having to uninstall and reinstall the game to get it to launch again.

Then I went back to my old mods and changed a setting on Spouses Expanded and now my game is stuck once again in the first loading screen. If I select launch in safe mode everything works.

You should of seen how 'modding' a.k.a hacking because it cant be called modding in the first mountnblade, especially warband , also the editor there crashes 99% of the time , much like the one in this version..so tw is keeping tradition...

It's been a while but I never had issues modding with Warband. Though I only played Brytenwalda and CRPG.

Like right now. I'll launch the game get stuck in a load screen. Then task manager out, verify and relaunch in safe mode and it works. It's annoying as hell. It's taken me almost 2 days to get that far and the worst is that the game doesn't even give my crash dumps so I have zero way of knowing what mod is causing it.

Verifying game files and relaunching with mods isn't a fix and its clear that there is some spaghetti code in the way bannerlord handles certain things.

[Action Man]

Originally posted by Malakyte:

Originally posted by 󠀡󠀡:

You should of seen how 'modding' a.k.a hacking because it cant be called modding in the first mountnblade, especially warband , also the editor there crashes 99% of the time , much like the one in this version..so tw is keeping tradition...

It's been a while but I never had issues modding with Warband. Though I only played Brytenwalda and CRPG.

Like right now. I'll launch the game get stuck in a load screen. Then task manager out, verify and relaunch in safe mode and it works. It's annoying as hell. It's taken me almost 2 days to get that far and the worst is that the game doesn't even give my crash dumps so I have zero way of knowing what mod is causing it.

Verifying game files and relaunching with mods isn't a fix and its clear that there is some spaghetti code in the way bannerlord handles certain things.

I would suggest following the troubleshooting steps on how to completely wipe Bannerlord from your PC. Then reinstall Vanilla, boot it up to make sure things are working. Then try readding your mods - one at a time to test - to get back to where you were before.