Mount & Blade II: Bannerlord

Mount & Blade II: Bannerlord

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Proposition Joe 2021 年 4 月 16 日 下午 10:07
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DOES THIS GAME STILL SUCK?
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Lord451 2021 年 5 月 22 日 上午 9:07 
At this point I think it's been virtually abandoned. I don't believe they have a real team that in the past year has done nothing but tweak the already broken as hell economy and added absolutely nothing worth even posting since then.
Flippy 2021 年 5 月 22 日 上午 9:13 
引用自 Lord451
At this point I think it's been virtually abandoned. I don't believe they have a real team that in the past year has done nothing but tweak the already broken as hell economy and added absolutely nothing worth even posting since then.

I dont think so at all. When i seen that intro that just came out, that is clearly Paradox sucktastic that got me worried.

Anyway check the number of reviews on the store page, this game has sold extremely well, which means they got the funding to fix it.

Have to wait and see, early access is supposed to be so games can get funding and player feedback and everything.
最后由 Flippy 编辑于; 2021 年 5 月 22 日 上午 9:16
Frag2000 2021 年 5 月 23 日 上午 8:00 
Charging AAA game price for an early access game and not finishing it is nothing less than fraud. It's like paying in advance some people to paint your house and they would disappear with your money after 40% of it is done.

Boner Storm 2021 年 5 月 24 日 上午 7:57 
Yes. It's unplayable without mods.

I have... 16 mods installed and it still mostly sucks.

Since the last time you probably played, the devs have not fixed siege AI or spear performance.

Instead, they removed gang battles and nerfed workshops/caravans... plus made minor tweaks to dozens of little things you probably don't care about.
Flippy 2021 年 5 月 24 日 上午 8:19 
引用自 Boner Storm
Yes. It's unplayable without mods.

I have... 16 mods installed and it still mostly sucks.

Since the last time you probably played, the devs have not fixed siege AI or spear performance.

Instead, they removed gang battles and nerfed workshops/caravans... plus made minor tweaks to dozens of little things you probably don't care about.

Im not to worried Elder Scrolls Vi and Dynsasty Warriors and Samurai Warriors 9 Empires will come out some day but i did have high hopes for M&B II.

If M&B II gets turned into a trash pile i will be ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and complaining the entire time hahahaha
最后由 Flippy 编辑于; 2021 年 5 月 24 日 上午 8:21
Boner Storm 2021 年 5 月 24 日 下午 4:53 
引用自 Flippy
引用自 Boner Storm
Yes. It's unplayable without mods.

I have... 16 mods installed and it still mostly sucks.

Since the last time you probably played, the devs have not fixed siege AI or spear performance.

Instead, they removed gang battles and nerfed workshops/caravans... plus made minor tweaks to dozens of little things you probably don't care about.

Im not to worried Elder Scrolls Vi and Dynsasty Warriors and Samurai Warriors 9 Empires will come out some day but i did have high hopes for M&B II.

If M&B II gets turned into a trash pile i will be ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and complaining the entire time hahahaha

Yeah unfortunately the game already is a trash pile and the devs are talking like they're confused about why we would want the game to be anything more than it currently is but slightly tweaked.
https://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php?threads/community-feedback-based-early-access-roadmap-ready-for-you-taleworlds.440590/page-23#post-9673649

Go on the TW forums sometime. It's a nonstop blackpill with intermittent fanbois posting letters to Santa telling TW not to give up hope and don't worry about the trolls and please please make a functional game some day. And the devs are like... lol nope.

There isn't even solid enough modding support to allow modders to fix the game themselves. Giant sections of the codebase are gangrenous bug-hives and modders are locked out.

Modders literally just signed a letter of protest and basically promised to give up if TW didn't get its act together. TW promised to have meetings about it and get back to us. That was 2 months ago.
https://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php?threads/an-open-letter-to-taleworlds-from-the-kingdoms-of-arda-team-and-the-total-conversion-mod-community-about-our-concerns-and-frustrations-with-bannerlor.440927/
Sir Milles 2021 年 5 月 26 日 上午 3:57 
There is any guide to install mods?

Cause When I try to use them I get crashes.
PotatoBasket 2021 年 5 月 26 日 上午 4:43 
It gave my computer the blue screen of death. I did not know it had that.

** I bought this with the understanding that I was supporting a worthwhile company that would continue to improve its product. Turns out they just want your money and it's going to go straight into their marketing team rather than better programming. The ads will tell you their next game will be better, it will be awesome, it will be the best game of all games; then guess what?

This is an important point for gaming companies, and unfortunate trend. Who is actually responsible for this mass fraud and theft is fairly vital as just blaming a company in entirety is inaccurate and wasteful.
最后由 PotatoBasket 编辑于; 2021 年 5 月 26 日 上午 4:52
QZ-Bloodwolf 2021 年 5 月 26 日 上午 5:17 
引用自 PotatoBasket
It gave my computer the blue screen of death. I did not know it had that.

** I bought this with the understanding that I was supporting a worthwhile company that would continue to improve its product. Turns out they just want your money and it's going to go straight into their marketing team rather than better programming. The ads will tell you their next game will be better, it will be awesome, it will be the best game of all games; then guess what?

This is an important point for gaming companies, and unfortunate trend. Who is actually responsible for this mass fraud and theft is fairly vital as just blaming a company in entirety is inaccurate and wasteful.

You might want to look deeper into that issue rather than leaving the reasoning just to this game.
If you are getting BSOD's you have some instability somewhere else.
PotatoBasket 2021 年 5 月 26 日 上午 5:24 
The error report is what killed my computer. Thus my frustration.

*That may have been fairly scathing but having slept on it before returning to the issue and investigating it's release and subsequent problems I've noticed a serious discrepancy between user expectations/programmer intent and the actual product offered consumers by overeager corporate marketing. Giving programmers time to do their jobs (and an appropriate salary/materials!) is vital to maintaining the trust of consumers; the present trend is trashing the gaming industry, which matters little to entities who buy and sell gaming companies without concern for the product or consumers. Nothing to do for it but to say nothing is to remain complicit. I did give the game a positive review and hope for its future success.
最后由 PotatoBasket 编辑于; 2021 年 5 月 26 日 上午 5:47
Boner Storm 2021 年 5 月 26 日 上午 8:54 
引用自 PotatoBasket
The error report is what killed my computer. Thus my frustration.

*That may have been fairly scathing but having slept on it before returning to the issue and investigating it's release and subsequent problems I've noticed a serious discrepancy between user expectations/programmer intent and the actual product offered consumers by overeager corporate marketing. Giving programmers time to do their jobs (and an appropriate salary/materials!) is vital to maintaining the trust of consumers; the present trend is trashing the gaming industry, which matters little to entities who buy and sell gaming companies without concern for the product or consumers. Nothing to do for it but to say nothing is to remain complicit. I did give the game a positive review and hope for its future success.

Please stop giving positive reviews to broken games. I understand the sentiment, but you're making the problem worse and not better.

The devs have proven time and time again that they won't listen to any of us unless there's a pitchfork mob raving outside their gates. Positive reviews just insulate them from the need to fix the fundamental problems with their dev cycle, which is the root of why the game is busted and why it will never be fixed without addressing it.
Hugh de Salle 2021 年 5 月 26 日 上午 9:08 
引用自 PotatoBasket
The error report is what killed my computer. Thus my frustration.

*That may have been fairly scathing but having slept on it before returning to the issue and investigating it's release and subsequent problems I've noticed a serious discrepancy between user expectations/programmer intent and the actual product offered consumers by overeager corporate marketing. Giving programmers time to do their jobs (and an appropriate salary/materials!) is vital to maintaining the trust of consumers; the present trend is trashing the gaming industry, which matters little to entities who buy and sell gaming companies without concern for the product or consumers. Nothing to do for it but to say nothing is to remain complicit. I did give the game a positive review and hope for its future success.

Got news for you the game has been in development for well over 6 years or more , Considering they had a vision and a successful system in place i find it shocking that it is where it is.

I heard one of the main problems is the small team and the Devs reluctance to invest in their own company as such , This is not surprising im sure someone is skimming the cream off the top.
Aven 2021 年 5 月 26 日 上午 9:21 
I am really not sure what you all are looking for. As a sequel to Warband, Bannerlord exceeds in every way, even in Early Access. The game has received continuous updates throughout EA, and the devs have kept the community informed about what they are working on, all of which occurred during the worldwide pandemic.

An aspect of Bannerlord's EA that may be confusing detractors is that the game released into EA with most features already implemented in the game, just in a WIP or hollow state. The majority of EA development so far has gone into filling out, finishing, balancing, and polishing the existing features rather than developing new features. The perk system, companions, the birth/death system, the campaign, and the battle scenes were all just hollow shells at release. They have all received concerted efforts to fill them out, and while they are not nearly complete, they are greatly improved.

Outside of the new terrain system, I really don't think you are going to see completely new features added between now and release. I'm not ruling it out, but again, the features already in the game are what need the continued focus.

Overall, Bannerlord is a great game, even in EA. It will continue to get better, it will get finished and released, and it will receive continued development and expansion after release.
Dildozer 2021 年 5 月 26 日 上午 9:22 
引用自 sERGioMtz
no multi player, so......... sure, still sucks


Good thing they spent so much time in Dev on MP.
PotatoBasket 2021 年 5 月 26 日 上午 11:48 
I mean. If the game had not crashed, bsod on my error report, and upon restart function at the speed of a snail while higher cpu required games are still running fine that would be a fine start.

** so weirdly, on start up the game will stop every few seconds, as though lagging; this is before loading a game. Then my save acts as though it's lagging online really badly, encounters an error and crashes. If I load an earlier game, it functions fine, and upon restart acts normal. If I load the broken save, quit and restart it still goes super slow even before I reload the the save file. I have not added any mods or altered files in any way. Thoughts?
最后由 PotatoBasket 编辑于; 2021 年 5 月 26 日 下午 12:12
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