Mount & Blade II: Bannerlord

Mount & Blade II: Bannerlord

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cookj71 Aug 16, 2021 @ 1:21am
i won't be buying this game until full controller support
The keyboard has been in use since the 1880's. Designing current games for keyboard and mouse is like welding a gun to a sword.

I don't use a keyboard and mouse, I can't. i spend thousands of dollars in the video game sector a year. i travel often. i traveled with a PS4, but now obsolete. i have a gaming laptop now. With a controller you can game on the fly for hours. You have to have a VERY EXPENSIVE customized "office space" to game for hours with keyboard and mouse. That's NOT a portable option or possible for many households. The older you get the more this becomes your truth. I would love an alternative, LOOK AT VR decks. No keyboard and mouse. A person that is a controller veteran knows there are 30 easy to implement keybinds. Menus need different sensitivity than gameplay. You are choosing to deny me access to your product.

thank you to any and all who took the time to read this.
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yogurt Aug 16, 2021 @ 1:58am 
So sad to see that cookj71 will not buy this game because, everyone listen up, until full controller support. So so sad. My Monday is ruined. :steamsad:
Willow Ufgood Aug 16, 2021 @ 2:08am 
Originally posted by yogurt:
So sad to see that cookj71 will not buy this game because, everyone listen up, until full controller support. So so sad. My Monday is ruined. :steamsad:
i am devastated
Aven Aug 16, 2021 @ 6:55am 
What's a controller?
Urmel Aug 16, 2021 @ 6:58am 
ok, cool.
Morkonan Aug 16, 2021 @ 7:04am 
Originally posted by cookj71:
The keyboard has been in use since the 1880's. Designing current games for keyboard and mouse is like welding a gun to a sword.

I don't use a keyboard and mouse, I can't. i spend thousands of dollars in the video game sector a year. i travel often. i traveled with a PS4, but now obsolete. i have a gaming laptop now. With a controller you can game on the fly for hours. You have to have a VERY EXPENSIVE customized "office space" to game for hours with keyboard and mouse. That's NOT a portable option or possible for many households. The older you get the more this becomes your truth. I would love an alternative, LOOK AT VR decks. No keyboard and mouse. A person that is a controller veteran knows there are 30 easy to implement keybinds. Menus need different sensitivity than gameplay. You are choosing to deny me access to your product.

thank you to any and all who took the time to read this.

I do understand and Bannerlord will have full controller support. It has partial support right now, but to be sure that full controller support will be available as soon as possible - It has to be for the console port. :)

I played a heck of a lot of my total uncountable hours of Warband "on the road." Not once did I use a controller and I managed to still whack dudes upside the head very often using a variety of wrist-breaking arrangements. Frankly... I don't see how I could ever use a controller for either product, but each to their own.

Now, if you legitimately can't use a mouse and keyboard, I understand. Though not similarly impaired, I'm a big supporter of gaming for everyone and that specifically means those who have issues or are otherwise impaired. Developers and manufacturers should do as much as they can to provide this market segment with accessible options. These days, we're seeing more of that being done and it continues to grow, just at a slower pace. (Keybinds, color-blind options, Microsoft and others offering special hardware, game streamer charity drives, etc.)

But, regardless - The game is going to get a console port eventually and, IMO, that's going to be a high priority right after PC formal launch. That should happen Q4 of this year (their estimate) or at the latest by Q1 2022 (Just a bit of leeway IMO). So, you should see some kind of full controller support getting pushed pretty hard for PC as they ramp up for console release. (It "should" get pushed early in development of the console port - They gotta have it working during port development. :))
Zef Aug 16, 2021 @ 10:42am 
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OP what drugs are you on?

The game has had Xinput controller support quite a few patches ago and i have been playing it with an xbone controller for the last 200h of gameplay.

Works perfectly fine, although ofc everything takes a little longer to do then compared to mouse and keyboard.

I work as a system engineer all day, the last thing i want to do when i'm home is sit at a desk and use the keyboard again.
RJboxer Aug 16, 2021 @ 10:58am 
Im old. Not matter how many hours I have in Diablo 3 on console. I still can't remember where the X or Y, or A key is.. or Triangles etc.... And when I do get it down pat, I tend to get bored of game by then, and go back to PC... when return to console 6 months later, gotta learn it all again (muscle memory learn.. Yeah I can see where the X is on a controller)

So sounds like OP is quite skilled on controller, as the VAST majority of gamers are... But this is PC, and mouse and keyboard have advantages.. and those of us who have been using them since 1880 like to keep using them. (sometimes.... system engineers excluded lol)

Regardless, as people have said Controller support IS available. And it will be on consoles, for sure...

Haddon (Banned) Aug 16, 2021 @ 11:13am 
Keyboard is far superior to controller in every way for any and all strategy or sim games.

Originally posted by RJboxer:
Im old. Not matter how many hours I have in Diablo 3 on console. I still can't remember where the X or Y, or A key is.. or Triangles etc.... And when I do get it down pat, I tend to get bored of game by then, and go back to PC... when return to console 6 months later, gotta learn it all again (muscle memory learn.. Yeah I can see where the X is on a controller)

So sounds like OP is quite skilled on controller, as the VAST majority of gamers are... But this is PC, and mouse and keyboard have advantages.. and those of us who have been using them since 1880 like to keep using them. (sometimes.... system engineers excluded lol)

Regardless, as people have said Controller support IS available. And it will be on consoles, for sure...
I have so much issue with abxy, the PS ones I have down perfectly from a lifetime of playing PS1 and PS2, but I also have a switch, and use my ps3 controller on my computer for any action games or emulation, fewother things. PC reads PS3 controllers as an xbox controller. AB and XY are opposite on the xbox to the switch, and all Nintendo consoles. I tried playing some game on emulator where it was one of those "press x during this mini-cutscene to avoid being chopped in half" sort of things and I failed 3 times because I am so much more used to my switch layout.
desaix Aug 16, 2021 @ 11:19am 
There IS controller support, but...

I took the longest time before I started using a controller for games. Having my arm in a sling for a while made me fall in love with one, as it made it possible to play games. Several games I'm told are terrible with a controller and are so much better with keyboard and mouse... well, aren't, are actually a far better experience with controller, after all; using the keyboard and mouse only complicates things.

That said, WITH THIS GAME, mouse and keyboard really are better than the controller; more responsive, more accurate aim for bows and arrows, etc.

But if you're having physical issues using a keyboard and mouse... yeah, it would be nice if the controller worked better.
cookj71 Aug 17, 2021 @ 1:02am 
Originally posted by Morkonan:
Originally posted by cookj71:
The keyboard has been in use since the 1880's. Designing current games for keyboard and mouse is like welding a gun to a sword.

I don't use a keyboard and mouse, I can't. You are choosing to deny me access to your product.

thank you to any and all who took the time to read this.

I do understand.... development. :))

thanks Morkonan for actually reading my post. as i said I CAN'T use a keyboard, i am disabled. i can use a controller all day long without issue.
Last edited by cookj71; Aug 17, 2021 @ 9:40pm
cookj71 Aug 17, 2021 @ 1:36am 
CHANGE and compromise. thinking forward not backwards.

hand cart, horse cart, wagon, train, car, semi-truck, air cargo, space shuttle

carving, writing, typing, computer aided typing, voice to text

the controller is the FIRST device created for gaming, ALL prior hardware is improvisation of existing technology to accomplish the goal. just as the musket was the first true firearm.

no real engineering and/or marketing of said engineering has happened around the computer gaming hardware interface.
controller, generic term, numerous iterations and improvements; it has its problems just like the musket.

VR is fundamentally a new technology. YET i don't hear any .... i'm not buying VR until full keyboard and mouse support. VR is still video games isn't it?

thanks to all who take the time to read this.
cookj71 Aug 17, 2021 @ 1:42am 
Originally posted by Zef:
OP what drugs are you on?

The game has had Xinput controller support quite a few patches ago and i have been playing it with an xbone controller for the last 200h of gameplay.

Works perfectly fine, although ofc everything takes a little longer to do then compared to mouse and keyboard.

I work as a system engineer all day, the last thing i want to do when i'm home is sit at a desk and use the keyboard again.

hi zef sent friend invite to discuss how you have controller setup. you can always de-friend etc. after exchange. thanks
Neomex Aug 17, 2021 @ 4:22am 
Pretty sad to read as someone who used keyboard and mouse their whole life.

Originally posted by cookj71:
Designing current games for keyboard and mouse is like welding a gun to a sword.

Please don't. There are enough ♥♥♥♥♥♥ console ports with horrible uis designed for controllers. I don't want to see more of those.
bunies Aug 17, 2021 @ 5:08am 
for what ever weird reason gettign hit in this game does trigger vibration in xbox controller, i assumed it had controller support and no one was dumb enough to actually use it
Trifler Aug 17, 2021 @ 5:26am 
Originally posted by cookj71:
CHANGE and compromise. thinking forward not backwards.

hand cart, horse cart, wagon, train, car, semi-truck, air cargo, space shuttle

carving, writing, typing, computer aided typing, voice to text

the controller is the FIRST device created for gaming, ALL prior hardware is improvisation of existing technology to accomplish the goal. just as the musket was the first true firearm.

no real engineering and/or marketing of said engineering has happened around the computer gaming hardware interface.
controller, generic term, numerous iterations and improvements; it has its problems just like the musket.

VR is fundamentally a new technology. YET i don't hear any .... i'm not buying VR until full keyboard and mouse support. VR is still video games isn't it?

thanks to all who take the time to read this.

The keyboard I will agree with, but not the mouse. I'm sorry you are disabled. I have a disability as well,
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Date Posted: Aug 16, 2021 @ 1:21am
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