Mount & Blade II: Bannerlord

Mount & Blade II: Bannerlord

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Clovis Sangrail Mar 31, 2023 @ 8:30am
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When will we get same sex marriages?
Isn't it about time we got same sex marriages in this game? Or at least same sex relationships?

Calradia has already demonstrated that it is much more tolerant of equality between the sexes than the real world (Female warriors, for example, and female clan and faction leaders), so why not take the logical next step and let your character marry as he or she pleases?

This is getting more and more common in games, so why not here. Even Stardew Valley, which is ERSB-rates E, allows same-sex dating and marriage. Surely Bannerlord could implement it without threatening their M rating.

'But what about having children?' I hear you say. That could be handled by adoption. (Again, Stardew Valley does it, so why not Bannerlord?')

And while we're working on the social structure, why not allow mistresses and morganatic marriages? And illegitimate heirs? Think of the possibilities once we have shed ourselves of that stodgy and antiquated 'Marriage is between one lord and one lady' social restriction.

And I'm not talking about putting this in a mod, either. This needs to be part of the game. We sure don't want something this important to be subject to some mod developer's free time.
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Drukaris Mar 31, 2023 @ 8:32am 
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this reminds me of "there arent enough black people in Kingdom Come: Deliverance"
justfaded Mar 31, 2023 @ 8:42am 
Pretty sure he's trolling. Rightwingers and religious fanatics do this weird ♥♥♥♥ all the time.
MΛRCUS HΞLIUS Mar 31, 2023 @ 8:59am 
Well this is certainly a good laugh!
libērtaŞ Mar 31, 2023 @ 9:21am 
Because while people are insane enough to bash each other in the face with an axe in this setting...they're not THAT insane.
flyingscot1066 Mar 31, 2023 @ 9:50am 
Not against it, just don't think the platform is ready for it yet. It would also be better to be implemented in such a manner that if you do enable it (should have an on/off toggle, every eligible NPC would have their own sexuality (Heterosexual / Bisexual / Homosexual)

You could also implement a Relations influence based on a new Trait (Open-Minded / Hidebound), which would improve or erode relations with other clans based on that Clan Leader's outlook, and that could extend to Cultural differences as well.

So if Derthert had the Hidebound trait, and was himself Homosexual, and your newly minted character were a Hetero Battanian with Open Minded, you would start off with a fairly solid negative relations with deyCortain (I think that's D's clan, top of my head), but if you were a Homosexual Hidebound Vlandian, you would start off in good shape with his clan.

But like I said, the platform is nowhere near being ready for this, and a sizable chunk of the player base is definitely not mature enough for it.
vaanomega Mar 31, 2023 @ 10:37am 
I think they didn't include it in the vanilla game because it add nothing in gameplay mechanics, marriage in Bannerlord seems to be here only for having Heir or making other clan having their own heir, i'm not against it, but to be added, i feel like it would need to be meaningful in gameplay mechanics and it's up to the devs, if they don't want to add it in their game, i'm also fine with it
ShadowFox Mar 31, 2023 @ 11:46am 
Originally posted by flyingscot1066:
Not against it, just don't think the platform is ready for it yet. It would also be better to be implemented in such a manner that if you do enable it (should have an on/off toggle, every eligible NPC would have their own sexuality (Heterosexual / Bisexual / Homosexual)

You could also implement a Relations influence based on a new Trait (Open-Minded / Hidebound), which would improve or erode relations with other clans based on that Clan Leader's outlook, and that could extend to Cultural differences as well.

So if Derthert had the Hidebound trait, and was himself Homosexual, and your newly minted character were a Hetero Battanian with Open Minded, you would start off with a fairly solid negative relations with deyCortain (I think that's D's clan, top of my head), but if you were a Homosexual Hidebound Vlandian, you would start off in good shape with his clan.

But like I said, the platform is nowhere near being ready for this, and a sizable chunk of the player base is definitely not mature enough for it.
Also devs are from turkey and having woke ideology in medieval style video games adds nothing to the game
Morkonan Mar 31, 2023 @ 11:55am 
Originally posted by ShadowFox:
Also devs are from turkey ...

^-- This. There may be product standards that must be followed. This is definitely something for a developer to "let Modders do."
flyingscot1066 Mar 31, 2023 @ 12:01pm 
Originally posted by Morkonan:
Originally posted by ShadowFox:
Also devs are from turkey ...

^-- This. There may be product standards that must be followed. This is definitely something for a developer to "let Modders do."
I agree, definitely better as a mod than core game.
Vertical Mouse Mar 31, 2023 @ 12:29pm 
Why not pride flags instad of clan flags?
Claytonium Mar 31, 2023 @ 12:58pm 
I just want a vegan kingdom where no troops wear leather armor and stuff like cheese, fur, and hides are illegal to trade. Is that so much to ask for?
justfaded Mar 31, 2023 @ 1:00pm 
Originally posted by Morkonan:
Originally posted by ShadowFox:
Also devs are from turkey ...

^-- This. There may be product standards that must be followed. This is definitely something for a developer to "let Modders do."
He meant turkey doesn't have to appease western sensibilities. Turkey doesn't criminalize homosexuality.
Morkonan Mar 31, 2023 @ 1:04pm 
Originally posted by justfaded:
Originally posted by Morkonan:

^-- This. There may be product standards that must be followed. This is definitely something for a developer to "let Modders do."
He meant turkey doesn't have to appease western sensibilities. Turkey doesn't criminalize homosexuality.

I know that.

But, if they have forbidden certain subject matter from games or there is a very strong.. inducement for TW to avoid including certain sorts of gameplay, that is not beyond the realm of sensibility.

And, to be very fair - No studio must include mechanics in their game that they don't want to include. So very many studios catch a heck of a lot of flak from all sides no matter what decisions they make regarding any accepted or unaccepted social or cultural practice...

If one avoids the fire, one does not get burnt.
Seggellion Mar 31, 2023 @ 1:20pm 
Maybe will they add it at some time. After all, they allow and promote cross dressing in vanilla game.

Still, the game is a battle simulator not a dynasty simulation. The latter would be crusader kings. The relationships in the game do not really matter. By the time your family is strong enough to matter in the game, you most likely already conquered the entire map or are so powerful, it no longer matters.
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Date Posted: Mar 31, 2023 @ 8:30am
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