How to unlock better smithing parts

[Mr.Person]

I am approaching level 200 smithing, have built and reprocessed hundreds of weapons over my playthrough yet even now I've only still got and am getting tier 2 weapon parts, even after buying/looting high tier weapons and smelting them. how do I get better ones now?

[Urmel]

you must be able to smite + smelt masses of high valuable / high tier weapons.

in smithing skill 50 is a perk for more smithing recipes when you smelt weapons.
thats a must have ability.

[Mr.Person]

I took all the smelting ones so I could make all the tiers of metal bars, as I figured I'd still get better parts but just slower. Little did I know I'd be stuck at Tier 2 parts at level 201 now.

[flyingscot1066]

Originally posted by Mr.Person:

I am approaching level 200 smithing, have built and reprocessed hundreds of weapons over my playthrough yet even now I've only still got and am getting tier 2 weapon parts, even after buying/looting high tier weapons and smelting them. how do I get better ones now?

You have to unlock all level 2 parts of a particular weapon in order to start unlocking level 3 parts.

[Mr.Person]

Originally posted by flyingscot1066:

Originally posted by Mr.Person:

I am approaching level 200 smithing, have built and reprocessed hundreds of weapons over my playthrough yet even now I've only still got and am getting tier 2 weapon parts, even after buying/looting high tier weapons and smelting them. how do I get better ones now?

You have to unlock all level 2 parts of a particular weapon in order to start unlocking level 3 parts.

Thats pretty dumb, it should be whatever you smelt you have a chance of getting a part that weapon has on it, but it starts very low and increases with smithing level. That way you don't get stuck like I have, made and smelted hundreds of my own forged and looted weapons, gotten to level 200 and yet can't make any actual GOOD weapons after a ton of playtime

[flyingscot1066]

Originally posted by Mr.Person:

Originally posted by flyingscot1066:

You have to unlock all level 2 parts of a particular weapon in order to start unlocking level 3 parts.

Thats pretty dumb, it should be whatever you smelt you have a chance of getting a part that weapon has on it, but it starts very low and increases with smithing level. That way you don't get stuck like I have, made and smelted hundreds of my own forged and looted weapons, gotten to level 200 and yet can't make any actual GOOD weapons after a ton of playtime

I believe it was done in order to keep people from being able to start pumping out thamaskene weapons at skill level 50.
I do not agree that you should be able to skip the lower skill stuff to get right to the top tier stuff, but that could be because I had to spend months turning round stock into square stock and back again before I got to the point where I could start making my own blades, and then when I did more ended up in the scrap bucket than not.

[Mr.Person]

Yeah, maybe they should still let you melt down the weapons and give you the part that weapon uses, but NOT let you use certain Tiers until you reach a certain smithing level. Again so something like my situation doesn't happen. I've spent several hundred thousand on weapons trying to see if I had to buy and smelt high end weapons trying to get their components.

[Mr.Person]

Well maybe at least make it so if you smelt a weapon you'll get a Random unlock for that weapon type of that tier, and not that exact weapon specifically.

[Clovis Sangrail]

I am only 175 in Smithing, but I took the Smithing 50 Curious Smelter and Smithing 75 Curious Smith perks, so even though my Endurance Attribute is only 2, I have opened up all of the 2H Sword blades, all of the 2H Polearm blades, and all but one of the 2H axe heads. (Nothing else is worth the trouble.)

Those two perks make a huge difference, but even with them, it's a cycle of create and destroy -- Forge and smelt and forge again. Rinse and repeat, gradually forging and smelting higher and high tier weapons and unlocking higher and higher tier parts.

There's nothing broken here. You just have to do it right, and that includes getting those two perks. I don't know how this works, but maybe you can go to the tournament and re-spec those perks.

Two other perks you want -- Smithing 175 Artisan Smith (Trade penalty for selling smithed weapons is halved) and Smithing 200 Enduring Smith (Endurance in increased +1).

[Clovis Sangrail]

Those warhammers are nice, but they don't sell for Shinola. You'll never get as much for a warhammer as you can for a nice long glaive.

And as far as taking Artisan Smith over Practical Smith -- I have all the parts I need before I even get to that stage, so taking the one that increases my sale price by about 40 percent is a no-brainer. And there's always money in the next town over.

As for the time -- I spend my days smithing and my nights with the lovely Corein. I have 5 lovely children, and the wife is only 28, so I'll probably get 1 or 2 more. Often times, we tour the countryside together selling our wares and trading horseflesh. And I would much rather be doing that that wasting time riding around with an army doing mindless F1 > F3 battle fanboi fights.

And you can call it horrible advice if you want, but . . . I'm not the one who can't get parts.

[The Konrad]

Well, even with the little time I spent smithing, something feels off.

What is the in game reason for "smithing stamina" which can only be replenished in a town?
Why did this mini-game even made it into the game anyway?

Clearly an Armoursmith, even a tailor would have been way more appreciated.
Imagine having the option to weave colourful Tartans and stuff.

No, I have the option to pick an ugly Pommel A to even uglier Pommel Z for a sword I don't want to use anyway.

To be honest the biggest blunder are the Pommels. As I also wanted the removable Pommel that can be thrown at my enemy to "end him rightly" just to have an additional Uber-Tier class VIII throwing weapon for the price of losing handling stats. But to every-bodies disappointment they didn't included that.

Oh and just to put into historical context:
"...vnd schraw ab den knoph von deinem swert vnd wirff..." excerpt from the Gladiatoria (MS KK5013)

But I digress:
I have 7 Smiths in my party, 2 of them above one hundred skill level and they basically have Tier IV of two-handed-swords unlocked. It's a slow process but I'm swimming in money.
Also some demands from customers are ridiculous. "Medium Difficulty" High Thrusting Damage on a 2H-Zweihänder meant for slashing. It just doesn't work that way.

In short: Process is slow, unlocking new parts is even slower, stamina doesn't make sense, skills help but not much, customisation feels lacking, selling your craft doesn't improve trading skill and you get way too much money not to use it as often as possible. Also: I have never crafted a "fine" sword. Is it not reflected on the name? Because I got the skill and it says 10% but nope, it doesn't appear in the inventory.

Also Pro Tip: Get an autoclicker because you are going to get carpal tunnel syndrome if you start smelting thousands of ingots and refine even more charcoal.

This is what I gathered so far.

[redhongkong]

theres perk 100% unlock new parts from smelting that will double up ur speed of getting new parts. i start smelting everything since the gae start. except 1h axe

[Mr.Person]

As I said I picked the ability to create all the different types of metals so I wouldn't have to rely on buying them from others, turns out that may have been the wrong call lol

[The Konrad]

I think the wrong call was rather having only one black smith in your party, not having 3421 or at least as many as possible.

[Clovis Sangrail]

Originally posted by Sheepify:

Originally posted by Clovis Sangrail:

And you can call it horrible advice if you want, but . . . I'm not the one who can't get parts.

Console commands don't count :P

All parts were obtained on the up and up. I do not use console commands. I consider those to be the most pungent of cheese, redolent of rancid rind and maggot farts.

But I do have Patrician III downloading. For 5 bucks, I'll give it a try. Thanks for the info. Looks interesting.

[Kimmaz]

Originally posted by The Konrad:

Also: I have never crafted a "fine" sword. Is it not reflected on the name? Because I got the skill and it says 10% but nope, it doesn't appear in the inventory.

The weapon gets some green numbers that adds bonus damage or length ect, the name does not change. You can hovever rename any weapon you like before clicking craft. I usually name them something cool like "The Wind Slayer" or "Blade of Death". I think it adds flavor and I dont like to use a weapon that is named the default name. I sell all weapons I forget to rename.,.