How in the Hell do I speed up my army?

[gathomas]

Literally all I'm carrying is grain, and I've got several hundred horses to carry it. Why in the *HELL* is 1.8 the fastest my army can seem to move? I can't outrun or catch anyone. Where are the calcs behind this explained?

[old Charlie]

in the bottom right corner is your movement speed. Hover over that with your mouse and you see a tooltip with your stats. Sounds like you have too many horses and not enough people to herd them.

[ShadowFox]

Have you expanded the speed thing on the bottom? You probably have too many horses and grain. What is your troop composition, who is your scout and what is their level, what is your morale? There's like 15 things that play into your on map movement speed and each one affects it slightly. Some more than others herd penalty hits hard so does overencumberance

[NMGSGaming]

Screenshots would help. If you have "Several Hundred Horses" then you'll be getting a herd debuff unless you also have several hundred soldiers. Pack animals do not increase your speed, check what horses you have, there is an icon which will tell you if they increase speed.

[Aven]

There are three categories that affect your party speed: troop composition, penalties, and perks.

Troop Composition - Foot troops slow you down, but you can keep a horse in your inventory for each foot troop to increase their movement speed. They won't be as fast as cavalry, but it significantly boosts your party speed.

Penalties - Overburdened, Herding, Forest, Snow, Desert, Wounded, Disorganized. You can't avoid some, others you can. Highlight your movement speed in the bottom right to see what you are currently being affected by.

Perks - There are a number of perks available to boost your party speed or reduce the some of the above penalties:

Riding	75	Mounted infantry increase your party speed by 30%.
Riding	100	Increases your party speed by 2%.
Riding	175	Halves the party speed penalty for herding.
Athletics	200	Foot troops in your party give +5% party speed.
Scouting	100	2.5% movement speed bonus when party morale is higher than 75.
Scouting	275	Increase Party Speed by 0.1% for every skill level over 200.
Medicine	75	Decrease wounded party speed penalty by 50%.

[Neme]

very much sounds like you have the Herd penalty OP,, "Several Hundred Horses" .. Sounds like far FAR to many..

Give this A read..
https://gamezo.co.uk/how-to-increase-party-speed-in-bannerlord/

But regardless, Look at the lower right of your screen Hit the >> to bring up more info, then mouse over the , that is your map movement speed, That will show you information inregards to what is slowing you down,

Having far to many Horses or any animals in your inventory, plus far to many footmen, little to no cavalry + prisoners + loot / grain can slow you down a Ton..

if it does say herd penalty, you will have to sell of a bunch of horses to remove it.

Oh, And ofcourse, not using a horse + saddle yourself will also slow you down, Make sure you have them equipped

[flyingscot1066]

If all that you are carrying is grain, you are probably taking a morale penalty from only having one variety of food, unless you took the Spartan perk at 25 Steward. Low morale negatively affects speed.
Also, what everyone else said. ^

[Drosta]

I'm curious about this works too.. so I'm resurrecting the post.

Myself, when I had too many horses I noticed the herding debuff. So that's no longer the problem. But I can't seem to get over 4.9-5.1 movement speed on the map. Despite having enough horses for all the footmen. Do I also need saddles? Like, when you start the game and you're alone on your horse you can move 7+.. I have a party size of about 130. Myself and companions are mounted. So I'm assuming it's the footmen that are slowing us down. But I kinda figured if I gave them all horses to ride we'd move fast enough to at least catch up to a caravan or two. Did I misunderstand something about how this works? Do I need a cavalry only party to be able to move quicker?

[justfaded]

Originally posted by Drosta:

I'm curious about this works too.. so I'm resurrecting the post.

Myself, when I had too many horses I noticed the herding debuff. So that's no longer the problem. But I can't seem to get over 4.9-5.1 movement speed on the map. Despite having enough horses for all the footmen. Do I also need saddles? Like, when you start the game and you're alone on your horse you can move 7+.. I have a party size of about 130. Myself and companions are mounted. So I'm assuming it's the footmen that are slowing us down. But I kinda figured if I gave them all horses to ride we'd move fast enough to at least catch up to a caravan or two. Did I misunderstand something about how this works? Do I need a cavalry only party to be able to move quicker?

Big parties just move slower. The more troops you have, the more your max speed is lowered. You can reach your max speed by making sure you don't have herding penalties and that footmen have available mounts. Don't worry about saddles for those guys.

And yeah if you want to hunt caravans you need to get your party number way lower. Or you can camp chokepoints and herd caravans into dead-ends.

[Philippe_at_bay]

Originally posted by gathomas:

Literally all I'm carrying is grain, and I've got several hundred horses to carry it. Why in the *HELL* is 1.8 the fastest my army can seem to move? I can't outrun or catch anyone. Where are the calcs behind this explained?

You're getting hit with a massive herding penalty. Read Bowerick's post and make sure you have enough horse handlers not to trip over your own feet.

Grain is probably too low margin to be worth trading,

[kristianjakob]

Originally posted by Drosta:

I'm curious about this works too.. so I'm resurrecting the post.

Myself, when I had too many horses I noticed the herding debuff. So that's no longer the problem. But I can't seem to get over 4.9-5.1 movement speed on the map. Despite having enough horses for all the footmen. Do I also need saddles? Like, when you start the game and you're alone on your horse you can move 7+.. I have a party size of about 130. Myself and companions are mounted. So I'm assuming it's the footmen that are slowing us down. But I kinda figured if I gave them all horses to ride we'd move fast enough to at least catch up to a caravan or two. Did I misunderstand something about how this works? Do I need a cavalry only party to be able to move quicker?

You dont necessarily need cavalry. With the lvl 200 perk in atletics and the lvl 75 in riding an infantry based party will only be slightly slower than a cavalry force. However, your party is probably a tad too big to reliably hunt for caravans. You would be better of hunting for lords instead.

Though, with, again, more perks you could catch them in forests.

[RJboxer]

Originally posted by kristianjakob:

Originally posted by Drosta:

I'm curious about this works too.. so I'm resurrecting the post.

Myself, when I had too many horses I noticed the herding debuff. So that's no longer the problem. But I can't seem to get over 4.9-5.1 movement speed on the map. Despite having enough horses for all the footmen. Do I also need saddles? Like, when you start the game and you're alone on your horse you can move 7+.. I have a party size of about 130. Myself and companions are mounted. So I'm assuming it's the footmen that are slowing us down. But I kinda figured if I gave them all horses to ride we'd move fast enough to at least catch up to a caravan or two. Did I misunderstand something about how this works? Do I need a cavalry only party to be able to move quicker?

You dont necessarily need cavalry. With the lvl 200 perk in atletics and the lvl 75 in riding an infantry based party will only be slightly slower than a cavalry force. However, your party is probably a tad too big to reliably hunt for caravans. You would be better of hunting for lords instead.

Though, with, again, more perks you could catch them in forests.

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Edit: Also, This thread is why MOST people consider the Battania Culture perk the absolute best best best. It is so much better than the rest, that you can skip second place, and consider the next best Third.

Their buff in Forest, allows you to catch or escape considerably faster parties.. With minimal Perks invested. Just run to forests. Good news, it seems 30% of the map is forest. (such an OP power, it is ridiculous).

[flyingscot1066]

Originally posted by Drosta:

I'm curious about this works too.. so I'm resurrecting the post.

Myself, when I had too many horses I noticed the herding debuff. So that's no longer the problem. But I can't seem to get over 4.9-5.1 movement speed on the map. Despite having enough horses for all the footmen.

Make sure the horses you have for your footmen have the Mount tag. Mules, Sumpter horses, Work horses, Pack Camels, and even Riding horses are only good for carrying gear and supplies.

Do I also need saddles?

No, saddles are really just light barding.

Like, when you start the game and you're alone on your horse you can move 7+.. I have a party size of about 130. Myself and companions are mounted. So I'm assuming it's the footmen that are slowing us down.

Probably the case.

But I kinda figured if I gave them all horses to ride we'd move fast enough to at least catch up to a caravan or two.

Caravans are fast because they are mostly cavalry. Even with mounted footmen you will usually not catch them, as the bonus for mounted footmen is pretty small.

Did I misunderstand something about how this works? Do I need a cavalry only party to be able to move quicker?

A cavalry only party will move fastest. Prisoners will slow you down. Being over your carrying capacity will slow you down.

Remember that sheep, cows, and pigs count toward herd size. Each troop unit can only manage 2 animals. That includes the mount for cavalry.

Party size does have an impact, but it's not as bad as one might think. Properly configured you can have 250+ moving at over 5.5 speed, if not better.

Having a good party scout is also very helpful, and terrain matters.

[Lord von Games]

Pathfinding

[Ruffio]

If you keep fighting for a while you tend to pick up a lot of livestock. Cows, Sheeps, pigs, they all count and will drag your party speed down. A thumb rule is 2 animals per unit in your party including the one they ride.

[Drosta]

Originally posted by Ruffio:

If you keep fighting for a while you tend to pick up a lot of livestock. Cows, Sheeps, pigs, they all count and will drag your party speed down. A thumb rule is 2 animals per unit in your party including the one they ride.

I always slaughter animals I pick up unless they're horses. I guess it's just that I have a larger party. I kinda assumed giving each footman or archer a horse to ride would give me a mounted speed army. But that isn't the case.