what is the strongest troops?

[casual]

i always use 50/50 imperial legionary / imperial elite cataphract

i use them in everything, field and siege

is there a stronger troop type you advice me to use?

[Ruffio]

The answer to everything ... Fians....

[bbyhighness]

Battanian Fian Champions. They melt everything. Khuzait Khan's Guards are also good. Not OP good like they used to be, but they're pretty versatile. Vlandian sharpshooters also - again, versatility.

But the Fians... I think that's one unit everybody agrees on.

[casual]

thanks for info i will try it out

[Clovis Sangrail]

I, too, favor the fians. And I like a large contingent of Vlandian Banner Knights, to go with them.

Half fians, half banner knights, and a small contingent of mounted Sword Sisters to serve as my personal bodyguard.

[lar unuruur]

250 fians, 100 khaans. gets boring over time. but these two units are way over everything else and have answer to any situation, any enemy size and type.

most effective is what dies less often and that is who kills from afar - sharpshooters, wildlings, druzinik champs as mobile shield wall/square.

cataphracts, banner knigts are too slow at killing. but really fastest way to run campaign is just autoresolve. then player just needs numbers.

[Clovis Sangrail]

Originally posted by lar unuruur:

. . . gets boring over time. . .

All battles get boring over time. F1 > F3 > Go take a piss and make a sandwich > Come back and collect OP battle loot.

Rinse and repeat. <yawn>

[kristianjakob]

Originally posted by Clovis Sangrail:

Originally posted by lar unuruur:

. . . gets boring over time. . .

All battles get boring over time. F1 > F3 > Go take a piss and make a sandwich > Come back and collect OP battle loot.

Rinse and repeat. <yawn>

Well then. I am pussled what it is that you do infact like about bannerlord. Not battle, not personally trading.

So...what do you pass the time with? Smithing and fastforwarding in the tavern?

[Ruffio]

Originally posted by kristianjakob:

Originally posted by Clovis Sangrail:

All battles get boring over time. F1 > F3 > Go take a piss and make a sandwich > Come back and collect OP battle loot.

Rinse and repeat. <yawn>

Well then. I am pussled what it is that you do infact like about bannerlord. Not battle, not personally trading.

So...what do you pass the time with? Smithing and fastforwarding in the tavern?

Making babies and growing his clan -)

[Clovis Sangrail]

Originally posted by Ruffio:

Originally posted by kristianjakob:

Well then. I am pussled what it is that you do infact like about bannerlord. Not battle, not personally trading.

So...what do you pass the time with? Smithing and fastforwarding in the tavern?

Making babies and growing his clan -)

Bingo. That and taking over towns in rebellion. I like to pretend to be a landless Vlandian knight, like one of the many sons or grandsons of Tancred d'Hauteville, going out into the world and carving out mine own holdings. Head to the Holy Land (Husn Fulk) and carve out the Kingdom of Antioch. Establish the Kingdom of Sicily somewhere along that southern sea.

The challenge in this is overcoming the inevitable culture penalty without actually establishing a kingdom and cheesing it with policies.

And smithing, of course, because I don't really do enough battles to exploit battle loot.

[Action Man]

Originally posted by Clovis Sangrail:

Originally posted by Ruffio:

Making babies and growing his clan -)

Bingo. That and taking over towns in rebellion. I like to pretend to be a landless Vlandian knight, like one of the many sons or grandsons of Tancred d'Hauteville, going out into the world and carving out mine own holdings. Head to the Holy Land (Husn Fulk) and carve out the Kingdom of Antioch. Establish the Kingdom of Sicily somewhere along that southern sea.

The challenge in this is overcoming the inevitable culture penalty without actually establishing a kingdom and cheesing it with policies.

And smithing, of course, because I don't really do enough battles to exploit battle loot.

Not establishing a kingdom is also cheese in my opinion. No one is allowed to declare war on you, so you can just wait out the clock, letting your sister get to 300 Trade, then buying up the map. I think this is part of your strategy based on other posts.

Towns don't rebel if you're in them, so you can just wait out building the Fairgrounds is built. Two easy to get perks (and one more difficult one) gives your governor enough of a bonus to cancel out the loyalty debuff.

This no doubt takes a lot of time. How much of your campaign is you waiting for things to happen?

[Clovis Sangrail]

But if you stay in your new town waiting for the fairgrounds, you don't get to ride around the countryside bonking bandit heads and selling the ♥♥♥♥ your warehouses are making.

The only time I'm really just waiting is when I find a town on the cusp of rebelling and I help it along by buying all its food every day.

And you are correct -- If you don't have a kingdom, no one will declare war on you, except maybe some shirt-tail mercenary with high hopes. But you also do not get policies and you cannot create armies. You get only whatever troops are in your main force, so they had better be good. If you do declare war on someone to grab a town or a castle with choice resources, you are just about guaranteed to be outnumbered.

But isn't it always true that one man's cheese is another man's strategy. To-ma-to or to-mah-to? Battle loot or long glaives?

[Action Man]

Originally posted by Clovis Sangrail:

But if you stay in your new town waiting for the fairgrounds, you don't get to ride around the countryside bonking bandit heads and selling the ♥♥♥♥ your warehouses are making.

And you are correct -- If you don't have a kingdom, no one will declare war on you, except maybe some shirt-tail mercenary with high hopes. But you also do not get policies and you cannot create armies. You get only whatever troops are in your main force, so they had better be good. If you do declare war on someone to grab a town or a castle with choice resources, you are just about guaranteed to be outnumbered.

But isn't it always true that one man's cheese is another man's strategy. To-ma-to or to-mah-to? Battle loot or long glaives?

If you're enjoying the game, that's what matters. I was curious as to how much of your game is just passing time until you hit your goalposts.

You can't create armies, but why would you need them? Nobody can fight you. If you instigate a war to take a castle, how does that conflict play out?

[Ruffio]

There is no right or wrong way to play the game, what matters is if you enjoy what you do and have fun with it.

[Ruffio]

Originally posted by Action Man:

You can't create armies, but why would you need them? Nobody can fight you. If you instigate a war to take a castle, how does that conflict play out?

With the right perks and how you can just capture lords forever.... You could just collect all the pokemons and take all their fiefs at own leisure. If all there is left is militia and a garrison you can starve out, any fief become a push over.

[GIJoe597]

I have a save where I was only a mercenary. That lasted until towns starting rebelling. I had been playing long enough to get my skills up to where my lone party was over 400 troops.

I left my employer. I then started taking over towns that were in rebellion. I think I currently have 8 towns spread over the map. Since you have a smaller force you need to be smart about your attack. In my case I raided the villages and parked my force at their gate to embargo them. Once food was gone and Garrison starved, I started the siege.

To initiate war with the rebellious towns I simply talked to a lord and gave my demands.