Make your clan member the ruler of existing kingdom. Need help please

[firewind]

Greetings everyone. I have a question to the more experienced players. Is there a way to make one of your clan members the ruler of the existing kingdom?

Let me explain. In my current playthrough (no mods, vanilla game) I have accidentially became the ruler of Vlandians. I dont’ own any fiefs now. The council decided to enact me as the leader of Vlandians… Vlandian kingdom is in bad shape right now. War with eastern empire and sturgians.

As for now I’m thinking to lead Vlandians to victory. But I cant’ give banner to myself) So my way of thinking is that I will conquer other factions and then enact someone from my clan as the ruler of Vlandians. Then I will give banner to this person and finish the game. Is it possible to make it happen in vanilla Bannerlord? Or maybe there is a mod to help me with my plan?

Of course, I can give up being the leader of Vlandians and then proceed to make my own kingdom….

[TruXurT]

Well you can abdicate and then give the banner to whoever ends up as your replacement.

However... If you really want to play out this scenario, here what you could do.

Best case scenario:

If there is a clan in your kingdom that has single female leader, then you can marry one of your brothers/sons/nephews etc to her and hope for the best.

What you can also do, is to take one of your female companions and create a clan with her and marry your relative to her.

Complication:

Both of those scenarios have a drawback of not giving any guarantees that your relative will become a clan leader.

For that, you would need to have a clan with no other member other than that female leader and preferably old one too, so your relative can take it over.

Now if you have character battlefield death enabled... well you can utilize that mechanic to accomplish that goal.

Of course from that point there is no guarantee that your relative will get elected as the next ruler. It may take a really long time for that to play out and if you want to do the quest with Vlandians, then just abdicate and give the banner to your replacement, even if not a relative.

[firewind]

Thank you! I think I will try to do as you told me in you reply.

I have a manual savegame right before I became the ruler of Vlandia too.

This time Vlandia will be powerful under my command. Then my relative and my clan will take lead in the new established state of Calradia!

I think Nathanos or my second little brother will have a wedding soon;)

I have already found a clan with old lady as the leader. This clan will accompany all battles with me (permadeath is enabled in my playthrough)😀

So this will be the first time in my several playthrough of M&B games when I will lead other kingdom to victory!

It is like a story of medieval kingdom to me. Where I’m the author.

Thank you again for your tips!

[Dutchgamer1982]

ira is the sole daughter of the empress and legally the hair to the entire empire.
-if you marry her.. and wait till her mother dies... doesn't she become the ruler of her realm?
and once she dies too any child you have with her.. would than get the claim to the imperial trone as well?

I mean it is the reason I am marrying her in my campaign.. she's got awfull stats... but all thoses hours of europa universalis... II III and IV.. tought me you not pass up marrying the sole bloodline to the throne;)

[kristianjakob]

Originally posted by Dutchgamer1982:

ira is the sole daughter of the empress and legally the hair to the entire empire.
-if you marry her.. and wait till her mother dies... doesn't she become the ruler of her realm?
and once she dies too any child you have with her.. would than get the claim to the imperial trone as well?

No, she will join your clan and leave the empire for good.

[TruXurT]

Originally posted by Dutchgamer1982:

ira is the sole daughter of the empress and legally the hair to the entire empire.
-if you marry her.. and wait till her mother dies... doesn't she become the ruler of her realm?
and once she dies too any child you have with her.. would than get the claim to the imperial trone as well?

That is a common misconception. She is not an heir, no more than Penton of Neretzes (son of emperor Neretzes, the one from Battle of Pendraic) and his daughter Apolytea.

But as we know in Bannerlord rulers are elected, so it really doesn't matter.

[Dutchgamer1982]

Originally posted by kristianjakob:

Originally posted by Dutchgamer1982:

ira is the sole daughter of the empress and legally the hair to the entire empire.
-if you marry her.. and wait till her mother dies... doesn't she become the ruler of her realm?
and once she dies too any child you have with her.. would than get the claim to the imperial trone as well?

No, she will join your clan and leave the empire for good.

which sucks;) thats not how inheritance went historicly;)

sure in a case like this with a weak claim.. I likely still would have to fight to enforce it..
but well it would not be the first time in history a man with no bloodties to it.. claimed a throne just because he married a girl.. who did..
and if that man is competent enough.. he might even get support from the locals;)

still marrying ira... to feel less guilty when eventually I take the empire by the sword..:)

[kristianjakob]

Originally posted by Dutchgamer1982:

Originally posted by kristianjakob:

No, she will join your clan and leave the empire for good.

which sucks;) thats not how inheritance went historicly;)

sure in a case like this with a weak claim.. I likely still would have to fight to enforce it..
but well it would not be the first time in history a man with no bloodties to it.. claimed a throne just because he married a girl.. who did..
and if that man is competent enough.. he might even get support from the locals;)

still marrying ira... to feel less guilty when eventually I take the empire by the sword..:)

Well, the is absolutely nothing stopping you from fighting a war to place her (you) as the head of the resurgent new southern empire;)

[TruXurT]

Originally posted by firewind:

I have already found a clan with old lady as the leader. This clan will accompany all battles with me (permadeath is enabled in my playthrough)😀

I heard an "accidental" arrow in the back helps speed up the process. You can even create a separate unit with only that clan members and take care of this while the rest of the army fights. Not my style of play but if you are in hurry...

[justfaded]

Originally posted by Dutchgamer1982:

ira is the sole daughter of the empress and legally the hair to the entire empire.
-if you marry her.. and wait till her mother dies... doesn't she become the ruler of her realm?
and once she dies too any child you have with her.. would than get the claim to the imperial trone as well?

I mean it is the reason I am marrying her in my campaign.. she's got awfull stats... but all thoses hours of europa universalis... II III and IV.. tought me you not pass up marrying the sole bloodline to the throne;)

It's even worse because the empire is split along succession issues. Southern empire went their own way specifically because they support dynastic succession. But the game treats all factions the same way, they elect their leaders.

[Clovis Sangrail]

Originally posted by Dutchgamer1982:

which sucks;) thats not how inheritance went historicly;)

That's not how it went in medieval Europe on Earth, but things happened differently in Calradia.

[Dutchgamer1982]

Originally posted by justfaded:

Originally posted by Dutchgamer1982:

ira is the sole daughter of the empress and legally the hair to the entire empire.
-if you marry her.. and wait till her mother dies... doesn't she become the ruler of her realm?
and once she dies too any child you have with her.. would than get the claim to the imperial trone as well?

I mean it is the reason I am marrying her in my campaign.. she's got awfull stats... but all thoses hours of europa universalis... II III and IV.. tought me you not pass up marrying the sole bloodline to the throne;)

It's even worse because the empire is split along succession issues. Southern empire went their own way specifically because they support dynastic succession. But the game treats all factions the same way, they elect their leaders.

yeah.. would be great if there was a campaign to unite the empire..
and could convince them to support you..

Southern empire ; need to marry Ira and make with her a male son..
.. Rhagea will honour the male line.. step down as regent abnd pass regency of southern empire to you.. you be made his regent until he comes of age than your son will rule the empire (you switch the character you play)

Western Empire are the old legions who believes in militairy strenght.. to prove you are fit to rule you must prove your militairy prowess in the field by conquest.
prove you can conquer and keep 5 cities or castles for the western empire.. and garios will recognise your imperial claim.. and swaer to follow you..

Northern empire does not like an empire.. but it's nobles are influencable.. basicily get over 50 rep with the leaders of all of their noble houses and they will agree to recognise your rule and vote lucon out.

vlandia has an honour debt they were a protectorate of the empire that thought fought as mercenary on the wrong side (not expecting the empire to fall just to get some loot of it.. / profit from both sides)
with the empire restored.. you can remind their king derthert of this. with the sword (excecute all their nobles)
or by shamimg them.. (toss a million coins to derthert stating you wanted loot.. here is loot.. now heel dog!)
either way derthert will make his realm being inhereted by the empiere upon his death and becomes your ally.

khuzait joined the rebellion... without shame about it wanting there independance.. well now.. only one solution.. capture 10000 of their people and sell into slavery instead of release+ have all their leaders captured too...
**
properly humilated town after town will beg to be reocupied by you..

someyhing like that?

[firewind]

Originally posted by TruXurT:

Originally posted by firewind:

I have already found a clan with old lady as the leader. This clan will accompany all battles with me (permadeath is enabled in my playthrough)😀

I heard an "accidental" arrow in the back helps speed up the process. You can even create a separate unit with only that clan members and take care of this while the rest of the army fights. Not my style of play but if you are in hurry...

I like this line of thought😀

Slowly but steady I’m making progress in my current campaign. I hope cards will play right and everything will go as planned. My clan should rule Calradia… Empire is weak and soon Vlandians will take over)

[firewind]

Originally posted by Dutchgamer1982:

Originally posted by justfaded:

It's even worse because the empire is split along succession issues. Southern empire went their own way specifically because they support dynastic succession. But the game treats all factions the same way, they elect their leaders.

yeah.. would be great if there was a campaign to unite the empire..
and could convince them to support you..

Southern empire ; need to marry Ira and make with her a male son..
.. Rhagea will honour the male line.. step down as regent abnd pass regency of southern empire to you.. you be made his regent until he comes of age than your son will rule the empire (you switch the character you play)

Western Empire are the old legions who believes in militairy strenght.. to prove you are fit to rule you must prove your militairy prowess in the field by conquest.
prove you can conquer and keep 5 cities or castles for the western empire.. and garios will recognise your imperial claim.. and swaer to follow you..

Northern empire does not like an empire.. but it's nobles are influencable.. basicily get over 50 rep with the leaders of all of their noble houses and they will agree to recognise your rule and vote lucon out.

vlandia has an honour debt they were a protectorate of the empire that thought fought as mercenary on the wrong side (not expecting the empire to fall just to get some loot of it.. / profit from both sides)
with the empire restored.. you can remind their king derthert of this. with the sword (excecute all their nobles)
or by shamimg them.. (toss a million coins to derthert stating you wanted loot.. here is loot.. now heel dog!)
either way derthert will make his realm being inhereted by the empiere upon his death and becomes your ally.

khuzait joined the rebellion... without shame about it wanting there independance.. well now.. only one solution.. capture 10000 of their people and sell into slavery instead of release+ have all their leaders captured too...
**
properly humilated town after town will beg to be reocupied by you..

someyhing like that?

I hope someday devs implement something like this. Or maybe modders?
As for now we have to invent our own stories in every playthrough…