Crash on save.

[Valor]

So I have a very high end pc. I had to tweak some settings so I could play Bannerlord without it crashing every time I launched it. My playthroughs are alot more smooth, but I noticed that every now and then it will crash when I save the game. I try to save every 10 mins now so I don't lose too much progress, but it's still very frequent. Do we ever know if they're going to fix this or not?

[PSAI76]

Same thing going on around here. Constant crash!!!!

[EM_SKYLAR]

I can only speak from my experience.
I had constant crashes every 5 minutes.
To fix this, I changed the power supply configuration:
I set the hard disk to shut down after 20 minutes of inactivity on battery and set it to never shut down (0 minutes) when plugged in.
The default options i had on Windows 11 were 1 minute of inactivity shutdown for both battery and plugged-in modes.
I’m playing on version 1.2.10 with a save file from version 1.2.8, and I’m no longer experiencing crashes.
The mods I’m using are Harmony and Character Reload Fix.

My pc :
Windows 11
32 Gb RAM
Two ssd hard drives internal and external
Processor 11th Gen Intel Core i7 3.30GHz
Nvidia RTX 3050 Ti 4gb VRAM.

[GIJoe597]

Valor - are you using any sort of cloud save? If yes, turn that garbage off and see what happens.

[Valor]

Originally posted by GIJoe597:

Valor - are you using any sort of cloud save? If yes, turn that garbage off and see what happens.

I did find a post years ago from a friend and it said to turn it off. It does happen less, but still occurs everynow and then. I just don't know what else to try to stop it completely. Thought they would of had it fixed if it's been an issue for years now, but its the first time im encountering it.

[Valor]

Originally posted by EM_SKYLAR:

I can only speak from my experience.
I had constant crashes every 5 minutes.
To fix this, I changed the power supply configuration:
I set the hard disk to shut down after 20 minutes of inactivity on battery and set it to never shut down (0 minutes) when plugged in.
The default options i had on Windows 11 were 1 minute of inactivity shutdown for both battery and plugged-in modes.
I’m playing on version 1.2.10 with a save file from version 1.2.8, and I’m no longer experiencing crashes.
The mods I’m using are Harmony and Character Reload Fix.

My pc :
Windows 11
32 Gb RAM
Two ssd hard drives internal and external
Processor 11th Gen Intel Core i7 3.30GHz
Nvidia RTX 3050 Ti 4gb VRAM.

Wouldn't that mean that I wouldn't even be able to leave my pc for a quick drink? Since it turns off so fast?

[EM_SKYLAR]

Originally posted by Valor:

Originally posted by EM_SKYLAR:

I can only speak from my experience.
I had constant crashes every 5 minutes.
To fix this, I changed the power supply configuration:
I set the hard disk to shut down after 20 minutes of inactivity on battery and set it to never shut down (0 minutes) when plugged in.
The default options i had on Windows 11 were 1 minute of inactivity shutdown for both battery and plugged-in modes.
I’m playing on version 1.2.10 with a save file from version 1.2.8, and I’m no longer experiencing crashes.
The mods I’m using are Harmony and Character Reload Fix.

My pc :
Windows 11
32 Gb RAM
Two ssd hard drives internal and external
Processor 11th Gen Intel Core i7 3.30GHz
Nvidia RTX 3050 Ti 4gb VRAM.

Wouldn't that mean that I wouldn't even be able to leave my pc for a quick drink? Since it turns off so fast?

I’ve read in some forums that sometimes low inactivity time for the hard disk can interrupt some processes and cause program instability.
My question is, does this happen only to external hard disks?

This link below is old but explains what happened to some users on Windows 10.
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/windows-10-freezes-if-inactive-for-a-few-minutes/d4cb92ed-0b96-4a6c-9298-bce1d7213b05

I was constantly experiencing the ‘file read error,’ and here are some of the crashes I encountered:
-The game crashed when I paused it for a while and then returned, especially when zooming in and out on the campaign map.
-It also crashed when distributing focus and perk points.
-Browsing in the trade shop triggered a crash.
-Pressing the ‘done’ button resulted in crashes.
-Leaving the game idle in the main menu caused crashes.
-Loading or manually saving the game led to crashes.

To resolve these issues (on Windows 11) this is what i did:
-I turned off the power supply inactivity options for the hard disks.
-I ran the Windows 11 ‘compatibility problems’ check twice on ‘TaleWorlds.MountAndBlade.Launcher.exe’.
When asked about any problems with the program, I selected ‘none above.’ After that,
I ran the ‘compatibility problems’ check again and chose ‘give more permissions.

-Additionally, I did something that is typically only done for downloaded mods, i unlocked the DLL files.
I opened my command console in administrator mode and entered the following commands:

cd "your drive letter:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Mount & Blade II Bannerlord\Modules"
gci -recurse | Unblock-File


These steps resolved my crash problems with Bannerlord.
I have other games in my library, such as Age of Empires 2 and MechWarriors 5, which never crashed.
However, Rune Factory 5 was crashing sometimes. After making the hard disk power suply option change , Rune Factory 5 stopped crashing.
So, some games in my library were crashing while others weren’t.

[Valor]

Still haven't found a solution. Getting kind of sad since I finally tweaked settings and can play it without crashing. It's still a gamble when saving, I guess I just have to do a marathon or leave the game on to continue my game ;c

[GIJoe597]

Generally, failing to save is a virus/antimalware issue. The software is not letting you write to disk/media.

Sometimes having a odd install, not to normal C: drive for instance, can also cause issues. Either way, turn off all forms of cloud save garbage as that can cause issues also. OneDrive/Steam, etc.

[Valor]

Originally posted by GIJoe597:

Generally, failing to save is a virus/antimalware issue. The software is not letting your write to disk/media.

Sometimes having a odd install, not to normal C: drive for instance, can also cause issues. Either way, turn off all forms of cloud save garbage as that can cause issues also. OneDrive/Steam, etc.

I've looked for any solution. The game is installed on my C: drive. The folders are exceptions in Window's Defender, Onedrive is completely uninstalled from my rig. I also allocated video memory, which saved the majority of crashing, but now its the issue of gambling on how long should I take to save, or how often do I want to crash situation. I don't know what else to do. :/

[GIJoe597]

Take a gander over in the Tech Support section. Perhaps something there for you we have not already tried.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/261550/discussions/17/

[Valor]

Originally posted by GIJoe597:

Take a gander over in the Tech Support section. Perhaps something there for you we have not already tried.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/261550/discussions/17/

I have, even had a friend of mine give me some posts dating all the way back form 2020. It solved the issue of my game crashing randomly which helped. But I can't find a solution for it to stop crashing on save.

[GIJoe597]

If you post in the Tech Support section there is a chance a TW forum mod will notice and perhaps forward your issue to the devs. At any rate, good luck.

[Valor]

Originally posted by GIJoe597:

If you post in the Tech Support section there is a chance a TW forum mod will notice and perhaps forward your issue to the devs. At any rate, good luck.

Appreciate it, I did with another issue and it never got fixed until I found out I had to limit my power to my CPU and do the Video Memory adjustment. I'll try doing it in hopes of fixing it, but most the solutions it seems comes from the community rather then the devs ;c

[Tohtori Leka]

I doubt there will be any kind of fix. I had the same problem and with Warband too, on different PCs and systems. It seems they are using the same code from Warband and didn't consider it an issue.

[Ruffio]

Originally posted by Tohtori Leka:

I doubt there will be any kind of fix. I had the same problem and with Warband too, on different PCs and systems. It seems they are using the same code from Warband and didn't consider it an issue.

Afaik Warband was written in Python and Bannerlord use c# can't just throw code from one game into another across different programming languages.