Tips and tricks for newbies

[Tzyku]

Hi everyone!
Recently I made a post about smiting in this game. A couple of people answered and helped a lot. Can someone give some tips and tricks about everything you know? How to level up character, how to get xp faster and so on. Thank you!

[kristianjakob]

You can find plenty of arguments around this for sure:)

My experience. The short answer is that the only thing that really matters, at the end of the day, is just battle. It gives you everything you need from XP, to gear to money. Hell it is even the best way to make friends.

Basically, the sooner you manage to establish a party capable of taking on other lords the faster you will progress.

[Tzyku]

Originally posted by kristianjakob:

You can find plenty of arguments around this for sure:)

My experience. The short answer is that the only thing that really matters, at the end of the day, is just battle. It gives you everything you need from XP, to gear to money. Hell it is even the best way to make friends.

Basically, the sooner you manage to establish a party capable of taking on other lords the faster you will progress.

And how is the best way to get a kindom?

[kristianjakob]

Originally posted by Tzyku:

Originally posted by kristianjakob:

You can find plenty of arguments around this for sure:)

My experience. The short answer is that the only thing that really matters, at the end of the day, is just battle. It gives you everything you need from XP, to gear to money. Hell it is even the best way to make friends.

Basically, the sooner you manage to establish a party capable of taking on other lords the faster you will progress.

And how is the best way to get a kindom?

Fight an awful lot of battles:)

The simplest is to join a kingdom and use its armies to carve out a kingdom for yourself and then rebel. Making a kingdom is easy though. Keeping and expanding one is what requires work.

[The Mau Corporation]

Watching your companions in tournaments allows them to skillup and xp for lvling.

Empowering the AI makes the game less aggravating. They will still flail about and lose armies. But ones kingdom rebounds faster in a nurtured sandbox with wealthy, skilled up clans and fiefs.

[Urmel]

-use battania mainchar for high party speed in woods

-read all tooltips and use the wiki (press N ingame)

-increase party speed on worldmap with max 2 animals (horse) for every soldier in your party. buy "riding"-horses, "trade" horses only increase weight for trading

-play merc and use "force for recruits/supply" against enemy villages.

you will get loot and fight only against some militia. for low clan tier 1 and 2 this is much easier then fighting other lord parties.

[Tzyku]

Originally posted by kristianjakob:

Originally posted by Tzyku:

And how is the best way to get a kindom?

Fight an awful lot of battles:)

The simplest is to join a kingdom and use its armies to carve out a kingdom for yourself and then rebel. Making a kingdom is easy though. Keeping and expanding one is what requires work.

What is the best way to keep towns from rebelion?

[Battle Brotier]

Originally posted by Tzyku:

Originally posted by kristianjakob:

Fight an awful lot of battles:)

The simplest is to join a kingdom and use its armies to carve out a kingdom for yourself and then rebel. Making a kingdom is easy though. Keeping and expanding one is what requires work.

What is the best way to keep towns from rebelion?

The biggest way is to assign a governor or lord with a culture that matches that town e.g. Aserai lord or Aserai companion-turned-lord for an Aserai town. Fairgrounds are helpful as well as keeping security high. Kingdom policies can also give good loyalty bonuses in exchange for things like a reduced tax income.

[Fekin]

I tend to play building up a decent army and at least 2 to 3 million gold travelling the map wiping out bandit camps and looters and not pledging to any kingdom so I get left alone to build up my resources.
Once I have an army, 4 or 5 caravans and maybe 5 or 6 companions in my party, it's generally time that a town will start to rebel somewhere and if I can get there in time I'll take it without waging war against a kingdom, remove any remaining rebel nobles on the map and concentrate on stabilising the town and start making a profit.

When another town rebels I'll do the same and keep doing that until I have 4 towns or so and lots of gold coming in.

All this time I'll be working on improving local relations around all my towns, growing my parties, improving my companions, and the AI leaves me alone because I aren't a kingdom, just a clan with a few towns dotted around the map.

I'm going to create my own kingdom soon so I'll see what happens after that, whether the AI lords then take offence with me and attack.

[Tzyku]

Originally posted by Fekin:

I tend to play building up a decent army and at least 2 to 3 million gold travelling the map wiping out bandit camps and looters and not pledging to any kingdom so I get left alone to build up my resources.
Once I have an army, 4 or 5 caravans and maybe 5 or 6 companions in my party, it's generally time that a town will start to rebel somewhere and if I can get there in time I'll take it without waging war against a kingdom, remove any remaining rebel nobles on the map and concentrate on stabilising the town and start making a profit.

When another town rebels I'll do the same and keep doing that until I have 4 towns or so and lots of gold coming in.

All this time I'll be working on improving local relations around all my towns, growing my parties, improving my companions, and the AI leaves me alone because I aren't a kingdom, just a clan with a few towns dotted around the map.

I'm going to create my own kingdom soon so I'll see what happens after that, whether the AI lords then take offence with me and attack.

That is a good tactic. I have almost 6 milions from smithing and smithing contracts. I should start to do that

[Fekin]

As a test, I just declared myself as a kingdom and within less than a minute the 4 biggest kingdoms who I all had good relations with, declared war on me.

Going by that metric, I don't see any value in becoming a kingdom if you get that level of aggression instantly.

[kristianjakob]

Originally posted by Fekin:

As a test, I just declared myself as a kingdom and within less than a minute the 4 biggest kingdoms who I all had good relations with, declared war on me.

Going by that metric, I don't see any value in becoming a kingdom if you get that level of aggression instantly.

How close are those towns together and how much are the kingdoms that delcared war on you demanding from you?

Also, a minut can on occation mean many things. The more important thing, how many ingame days from you declared yourself king until 4 factions had declared war on you?

[Urmel]

you are the first newbie with 6 mio gold.

and rebellion is a pain for all clans in your kingdom, not only you. why use a solution that help your clan but the rest of the kingdom is doomed ?!?

all fiefs have low loyality and security, cant build anything and are very inefficient.
so you need kingdom polices that increase security and loyality for all. thats the only "challenge" in the game, the rest is only grinding.

use the search function to get the kingdom polices you need/want.

[Urmel]

get voted for new king, when the old king of a faction dies is the way to go.

you get manny clans and fiefs for free.

[kristianjakob]

Originally posted by Tzyku:

Originally posted by Fekin:

I tend to play building up a decent army and at least 2 to 3 million gold travelling the map wiping out bandit camps and looters and not pledging to any kingdom so I get left alone to build up my resources.
Once I have an army, 4 or 5 caravans and maybe 5 or 6 companions in my party, it's generally time that a town will start to rebel somewhere and if I can get there in time I'll take it without waging war against a kingdom, remove any remaining rebel nobles on the map and concentrate on stabilising the town and start making a profit.

When another town rebels I'll do the same and keep doing that until I have 4 towns or so and lots of gold coming in.

All this time I'll be working on improving local relations around all my towns, growing my parties, improving my companions, and the AI leaves me alone because I aren't a kingdom, just a clan with a few towns dotted around the map.

I'm going to create my own kingdom soon so I'll see what happens after that, whether the AI lords then take offence with me and attack.

That is a good tactic. I have almost 6 milions from smithing and smithing contracts. I should start to do that

Not particularly. As you say, you have more than enough gold.

This is what I do if I am not just going the vassal->rebel route.

Just declare war on a faction ideally of your own culture and ideally when it is not at war. If it is not at war and you dont have any fiefs yet then the faction cannot raise armies.

Next step is just to fight battles against the lords of that faction until you have weakend the faction and captured a good number of its clanleaders.

If you havnt already then during that process you should recruit more men and form your clanparties.

Finally, you can begin conquering fiefs doing it in an order where you focus on making specific clanleaders that you wish to recruit fiefless.

Something like.

Take a fief from clanleader A.
Form a kingdom and summon your clanparties.
Take a second fief from clanleader A (assuming he has two) and then ask him to join you.
Repeat for clanleader B. and continue to do so until you have the desired number of clans from that faction (higher tier clans are better).
After that you can finish the faction off.

If someone else declare war on you before you are done with the first faction then just pay them for peace. You can always make them your next target.

The most important thing here really is that you want as many vassals (high quality preferably) as you can get your hands on as soon as possible to bolster your kingdom strength and make you a less attractive target for the AI factions.