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I'm level 260 in charm at this point.
a normal lord i get 10 relation and a clan leader gives the 35.
The weird thing is, why i get no relation for donating the lords as prisoners in some cities.
Afaik deppends on the relation you have with the fief owner, and the nobles in the town at the current time. If you already maxed out relation you wont get any more.
In addition it depends on the traits of the prisoner and the dungeonowner. Opposing traits gives a bonus relationship boost whereas shared traits risk giving you nothing at all.
Thank you, this seems to be my problem.