I don't understand the point of the Aserai

[Lil Grandpa]

With the Empire, they do most things exceptionally well. Their top tier archer is alright, but it has great armor. Their cavalry might be the best in the game. Their infantry is also pretty exceptional. They even have a decent horse archer unit. With the Aserai, they do absolutely nothing well. I don't even know how they're going to be balanced.

[~ Fabulous ~]

aserai is the most fashionable faction, no other faction can compare to their bling! fight me!

also Unqid is the beast king in bannerlord

[Caramel_Clown]

Troop trees need some work, obviously. Aserai can be played well, if they're in hands of a player. But AI is incapable of commanding armies with finesse. At least they do well in autocalc, because in AI vs AI Aserai usually kick Empire's ass.

[Caramel_Clown]

Originally posted by Locklave:

I'd say the Sturgia has them beat for failure. Terrible units with miss assigned stats and crappy armor with a King that seems to think declaring a new war while already losing the current war is a smart move.

Sturgia has veterans, which are arguably best shield infantry in the game. Rest is fixable.

[Lil Grandpa]

Originally posted by ~ Fabulous ~:

aserai is the most fashionable faction, no other faction can compare to their bling! fight me!

Empire has some pretty neat byzantine aesthetics. They do well in that department, too. Not to mention their settlements and palaces look the nicest. I will say that 60 percent of the game is spent capturing Empire settlements and castles to where they look almost identical. I would hope in the final release they would differentiate not only the styles of their settlements (maybe for one of the empire factions to look more Roman than Byzantine for example), but also their units.

[Caramel_Clown]

Originally posted by Locklave:

Originally posted by Caramel_Clown:

Sturgia has veterans, which are arguably best shield infantry in the game. Rest is fixable.

Fixable isn't fixed. We are dealing with what we have now, not future situations after imaginary changes that haven't happened yet.

In which case we have much better than Aserai. Veterans are excellent troops, archers are serviceable, skirmish cavalry has it's moments if used correctly, and druzhinniks if anything work as an amazing infantry when dismounted during a siege for example. Aserai whole tree needs some serious work.

[Egro]

They are there to fill up the desert and to get butcher by both empire and Vlandia..

[Muscarine]

I agree, Aserai broke, give them Armored Camel cav

[Scrotum Scratcher]

you're completely right with the empire. cataphracts, legionaries, and palatine guards are some of the best units in the game.

the aserai is a jack of all trades faction. they have decent master archers, infantry, and heavy shock cav that also functions as horse archers.

the biggest problem i've seen with them is the lack of shields and armor. their top tier infantry (aserai veteran infantry) have awful helmets and the first two infantry tiers have no shields. their infantry dies quite fast as a result. ranged weapons are also very strong in this game which nullifies any usage of their shock infantry and axemen.

[palaeologi]

The Aserai look good stat wise on their units but against the empire it's like watching a marching line go into a shredder. Some serious balance needs to be done or at least start the divided empire at war.

[Right Clicker]

What's really going for them is their territory and the current zerg that the prison system/army spawn allows them.

If I play without mods, I can destroy a 800 strong army...only to face another 800 strong army comprising of mostly the same parole violating prisoners in mere minutes.

They're just so clustered and the terrain makes it easy for them to get around. Compare that to Northern Empire where there's plenty of forest/hills/mountains/rivers that makes it really slow to get around.

[Seeking Solace]

The Aserai infantry have javelins. Imperial infantry do not.
The Aserai cavalry units are the fastest in the game. The imperial cavalry is the slowest in the game.
The Aserai elite units have javelines. The Imperial elite units do not.
The Aserai elite units skill points in throwing, polearms, and highest is riding at 280. The Imperial elite have one-handed as the highest skill...
The Aserai also use the strongest javelins in the game, the Jareed.

I'm missing exactly what makes the Aserai units weak in your perspective. You provided no points to support your argument whatsoever.

[Caramel_Clown]

Originally posted by -Solace-:

The Aserai infantry have javelins. Imperial infantry do not.
The Aserai cavalry units are the fastest in the game. The imperial cavalry is the slowest in the game.
The Aserai elite units have javelines. The Imperial elite units do not.
The Aserai elite units skill points in throwing, polearms, and highest is riding at 280. The Imperial elite have one-handed as the highest skill...
The Aserai also use the strongest javelins in the game, the Jareed.

I'm missing exactly what makes the Aserai units weak in your perspective. You provided no points to support your argument whatsoever.

And yet, a small group of cataphracts simply roll over Aserai hordes and don't even slow down. Aserai are like glass cannons, but without cannon part. Palatine guards will turn half the army into minced meat, and cataphracts will mop up the rest. Infantry doesn't even have to do anything.

[Twitch.tv/KAEN_SG]

Aserai have some of the best cavs in the game... you DO know they use the best horses in the game right?

[Seeking Solace]

Originally posted by Caramel_Clown:

Originally posted by -Solace-:

The Aserai infantry have javelins. Imperial infantry do not.
The Aserai cavalry units are the fastest in the game. The imperial cavalry is the slowest in the game.
The Aserai elite units have javelines. The Imperial elite units do not.
The Aserai elite units skill points in throwing, polearms, and highest is riding at 280. The Imperial elite have one-handed as the highest skill...
The Aserai also use the strongest javelins in the game, the Jareed.

I'm missing exactly what makes the Aserai units weak in your perspective. You provided no points to support your argument whatsoever.

And yet, a small group of cataphracts simply roll over Aserai hordes and don't even slow down. Aserai are like glass cannons, but without cannon part. Palatine guards will turn half the army into minced meat, and cataphracts will mop up the rest. Infantry doesn't even have to do anything.

Literally the same argument can be made with Aserai Faris and Veteran archers lol... I have 0 casualities after every battle at realistic difficulty. Let me speak your language. Imperial troops are slain like a hot knife cutting through butter.

[Seeking Solace]

Originally posted by Twitch.tv/KAEN_SG:

Aserai have some of the best cavs in the game... you DO know they use the best horses in the game right?

They do not know. They provided no points to prove their arguments whatsoever.

Aserai elite units wield the strongest javelins in the game, ride the fastest horse in the game, and have 280 riding which is also the highest in the game.

Cataphracts in comparison ride the slowest war horse, have no javelins whatsoever, wield decorative shields, and 220 riding. They move like crippled old men for an elite cavalry unit.

Infantry also use javelins. Imperials do not. Mamelukes ride fastest war horse with bow, being able to kite anything including other cavalry. I literally see no advantage that imperial troops have other than +5 armor rating on average and worse encumbrance.