31 GB RAM and bannerlord used it all crashing PC

[Redarmy]

I believe this classifies as a memory leak correct? yeah what the hell?

I was waiting in a town, went to make coffee, noticed my screen flashed blue and i came back to see that bannerlord crashed with a texture error. And my pc wasnt responding...

Out of memory error pops up, im barely able to restart pc. why is bannerlord getting up to 31 GB or RAM??? While sitting in a town?

SPEC: 17-13700 . 3060TI . SSD . 32GB CORSAIR RAM. New PC, 6 months old. No other issues. Nothing else running except BL.

idle now with steam open my rig uses 5/31 GB for reference.

[Clovis Sangrail]

What mods have you installed?

What mods have you installed and then deleted or disabled?

What version?

Beta?

[Karna5]

I think you should do earnest hardware diagnostics on your new PC. What you describe should not be happening in Bannerlord. I've got over a thousand hours in the game on a 7 year old PC with 16 GB RAM and an upgraded Nvidia 3080 graphics card, and i've played alternately at 2k resolution and 4k resolution with large battles and more than 24 hours at a time frequently, and I've never had that problem.

In fact, for the last several months I've had Bannerlord playing most of every day without that issue.

You've got something more serious going on for you, I lament to say.

[Redarmy]

Originally posted by Clovis Sangrail:

What mods have you installed?

What mods have you installed and then deleted or disabled?

What version?

Beta?

current 1.29 version.

no mods, ever,

Originally posted by Karna5:

I think you should do earnest hardware diagnostics on your new PC. What you describe should not be happening in Bannerlord. I've got over a thousand hours in the game on a 7 year old PC with 16 GB RAM and an upgraded Nvidia 3080 graphics card, and i've played alternately at 2k resolution and 4k resolution with large battles and more than 24 hours at a time frequently, and I've never had that problem.

In fact, for the last several months I've had Bannerlord playing most of every day without that issue.

You've got something more serious going on for you, I lament to say.

iv also been playing consecutively for days,up to 8 hours at a time and no issues. But todaye, i left the game paused for a few minutes and this then happened. Seems more of an issue with the game as my hardware readings are fine and im testing as we speak.

i didnt touch page file or anything, no system changes.

[Karna5]

Originally posted by Redarmy:

iv also been playing consecutively for days,up to 8 hours at a time and no issues. But todaye, i left the game paused for a few minutes and this then happened. Seems more of an issue with the game as my hardware readings are fine and im testing as we speak.

i didnt touch page file or anything, no system changes.

I'm glad for you on the diagnostics results. The next thing I suggest you check is your PC sleep settings. Make sure it's not turning off hardware (especially your hard drive) when unattended. It's okay to sleep the monitor, but sleeping anything else can cause all sorts of issues.

For instance, when I swap headphones (turn off one blue tooth headphone, switch PC to PC speakers, then plug in a new set of blue tooth headphones), my Bannerlord always crashes with a hardware complaint.

So I've definitely seen where disabling hardware being used by the game can cause issues.

[Redarmy]

Originally posted by Karna5:

Originally posted by Redarmy:

iv also been playing consecutively for days,up to 8 hours at a time and no issues. But todaye, i left the game paused for a few minutes and this then happened. Seems more of an issue with the game as my hardware readings are fine and im testing as we speak.

i didnt touch page file or anything, no system changes.

I'm glad for you on the diagnostics results. The next thing I suggest you check is your PC sleep settings. Make sure it's not turning off hardware (especially your hard drive) when unattended. It's okay to sleep the monitor, but sleeping anything else can cause all sorts of issues.

For instance, when I swap headphones (turn off one blue tooth headphone, switch PC to PC speakers, then plug in a new set of blue tooth headphones), my Bannerlord always crashes with a hardware complaint.

So I've definitely seen where disabling hardware being used by the game can cause issues.

thanks for tip i cant see it though. in sleep it only shows monitor setting and power plan. but by default i doubt windows disables my drives on sleep. i often walk away from pc with no issues other than monitor sleeping.

Nah im trying to reporduce the exact issue now and not getting any luck. it could be possible that Bannerlord just had an issue with memory allocation in a rare fluke.

Been gaming for 10 years and its my first time to ever see memory max out like this on a gaming PC.

[Redarmy]

im looking into it potentially being caused by reshade. dont know how feasable that sounds though.

Actually no, now i think about it bannerlord threw up an error message about textures . Im certain theres an issue with shaders in this game as iv seen issues in many scenes and other things.

i think BL is Streaming all those textures constantly and the code is not removing all of them. not a constant issue,never had it in 400 hours of playing and cant reproduce.

[Redarmy]

ok found this in event viewer:

Windows successfully diagnosed a low virtual memory condition. The following programs consumed the most virtual memory: TaleWorlds.MountAndBlade.Launcher.exe (2312) consumed 41235582976 bytes, MsMpEng.exe (5996) consumed 748040192 bytes, and steamwebhelper.exe (17268) consumed 437551104 bytes.

i never tamprered with virtual mem settings though

wouldnt this indicate a memory leak with Bannerlord?

[Karna5]

Originally posted by Redarmy:

i never tamprered with virtual mem settings though

wouldnt this indicate a memory leak with Bannerlord?

That's interesting, but virtual memory (using your hard drive in place of RAM) is like a thousand times slower than RAM. It's okay for a game to use virtual memory for hard drive cache, but if it's using virtual memory for RAM assistance, you'll have all sorts of issues.

As I only have 16 GB of RAM, I can't compare my performance to your PC which has twice that.

I'm afraid i can't offer any further suggestions aside from trying to see whether it's supplementing your RAM with hard drive virtual memory which would be very bad.

[Squish Mush]

too much porn virus, pirated game virus

[Bo0Mz]

verify integrity of game files and make sure your gpu driver is up to date

[Karna5]

I had an idea and went back to reread your specs, but I'm severely visually impaired and can't quite make out if some of those words/numbers are a graphics card. This said, I'm pretty sure if you try to use more textures than your graphic's card onboard memory can handle then Windows will overflow into Virtual Memory (which, as I said, is terrible as virtual memory is way too slow).

If you're playing at 4k resolution, try dropping to 2k. If you're using anything other than FXAA anti-aliasing, try switching to FXAA (that's what I use which both looks better and uses less graphical horsepower).

I don't use reshade so have no clue if that's also adding to the graphics card burden, but my understanding of how it works is that it always does add to the burden as it's post processing (your PC handles the game and then handles the reshade on top of it). But I can't speak to reshade more than that.

Anyway, it's an idea I figured I'd throw your way :)

[Redarmy]

Originally posted by Karna5:

Originally posted by Redarmy:

i never tamprered with virtual mem settings though

wouldnt this indicate a memory leak with Bannerlord?

That's interesting, but virtual memory (using your hard drive in place of RAM) is like a thousand times slower than RAM. It's okay for a game to use virtual memory for hard drive cache, but if it's using virtual memory for RAM assistance, you'll have all sorts of issues.

As I only have 16 GB of RAM, I can't compare my performance to your PC which has twice that.

I'm afraid i can't offer any further suggestions aside from trying to see whether it's supplementing your RAM with hard drive virtual memory which would be very bad.

so you assume this is hardware related on not Bannerlord having a random issue? if so how sure? because iv been playing the past few days on fresh install with no issues, i havent added anything to PC in that time,all hardware is 6 months old. Can a game bug out(and if so for what reason?) and try to use Virtual memory instead of RAM?

Also if this was a serious hardware issue, wouldnt i be able to reproduce it under the same circumstances?

Originally posted by Squish:

too much porn virus, pirated game virus

scanned pc everyday, i dont visit harmful sites,use blockers etc. PC is clean.

Originally posted by Bo0Mz:

verify integrity of game files and make sure your gpu driver is up to date

its more or less a fresh install.

[Redarmy]

Originally posted by Karna5:

I had an idea and went back to reread your specs, but I'm severely visually impaired and can't quite make out if some of those words/numbers are a graphics card. This said, I'm pretty sure if you try to use more textures than your graphic's card onboard memory can handle then Windows will overflow into Virtual Memory (which, as I said, is terrible as virtual memory is way too slow).

If you're playing at 4k resolution, try dropping to 2k. If you're using anything other than FXAA anti-aliasing, try switching to FXAA (that's what I use which both looks better and uses less graphical horsepower).

I don't use reshade so have no clue if that's also adding to the graphics card burden, but my understanding of how it works is that it always does add to the burden as it's post processing (your PC handles the game and then handles the reshade on top of it). But I can't speak to reshade more than that.

Anyway, it's an idea I figured I'd throw your way :)

appreciate the input. Im using DSR to 1440p on a 1080p monitor. most settings on ultra bar shadows. The GPU is more than capable of handling it, VRAM itself isnt exceeding half if in game options are accurate.

Only using a few light reshade settings such as vibrance, no AA or nothing.

[Karna5]

Originally posted by Redarmy:

so you assume this is hardware related on not Bannerlord having a random issue? if so how sure?

Assuming might be going too far *Laughs* I only know that in over 1000 hours of nearly day and night playing Bannerlord for months I have not run into this issue. However, my graphics card and settings may be different hence the reason for my not willing to go as far as to say I assume.

I play on an Nvidia 3080 graphics card sometimes with 4k settings, sometimes with 2k settings, and with all graphical settings set to maximum with the exception of anti-aliasing which I always set to FXAA because I like that more.

[Redarmy]

sorry i updated OP(spelling errors) specs i7-13700 / 3060TI 32 GB Corsair 2133 MHz RAM. SSD