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♥♥♥♥ it. I want to slaughter smelly idiots with my Ambidextrous Vlandian Axes.
Vaegir axes would've been more preferable, but you gotta work with what you got.
;)
(On a sidenote, I don't remember what, but I know for a fact that there was atleast a couple Warband mods with shields textured as swords and such. Seemed neat. Maybe that could work with the new shield bash????)
How many sources, art depictions, and written information would you need to eat that foot?
https://www.bakerspeel.com/swetnam-ch-12-first-the-true-gard-of-rapier-and-dagger-for-the-defence-either-of-blow-or-thrust/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parrying_dagger
http://resources.metmuseum.org/resources/metpublications/pdf/Some_Notes_on_Parrying_Daggers_and_Poniards_The_Metropolitan_Museum_Journal_v_12_1977.pdf
It was most definitely used. However during a later time period than Bannerlord.
Do you just like showing your ass in every single thread? do you get off on it? Do carry on by all means.
Dual wielding is a meme pushed in movies, is not practical in real combat. That was my point. you came in with NU UH LOOK AT THESE 1V1 WEPS like that is at all related.
And now are trying to point to a DIFFERENT PERSONS CONVERSATION to justify your idiocy.
And im the one sidestepping ey? priceless
You seem angry.
Define "real combat."
Are you saying duels to the death aren't real combat? I believe you are confusing battlefield combat with other forms of combat. In a setting where you would not have a shield or the ability to carry around a two handed weapon and offhand weapon or buckler is going to be more effective than an empty hand. Historically proven and logical.
I mean it doesn't take a hell of a lot of brain power to realize than a piece of steel in your left hand is going to be more effective than your fleshy fingers, or at the very least there is no situation where having that weapon is going to be a detriment.
This sounds like a subject you know very little about other than "I heard some guy on Reddit say that dual-wielding was only done in movies" Seriously dude do some research before you rant about things you aren't familiar with.
And using an offhand weapon that is anything but a dagger for parrying, a VERY light sword for parrying or something similar, will absolutely throw you off balance. This isn't just from some forums I read (you keep using this when you don't actually have anything to back up your point), this is from trying it personally, as well as many, many people in HEMA trying it. Without a lot of training in it specifically, it opens you up to attacks. Any usage of the weapon in your offhand for anything beyond parrying opens you up as well. Miyomoto Musashi developed a style using a katana and wakizashi, and he spent DECADES working on it.
"this most complicated form of fencing, requiring an assiduous training and great skill," From the first thing you linked and didn't even bother to read. Yes, it was a thing...but almost never, like he said. It was a thing, in duels, among the ELITE of the elite, for about a century. It was also done generally using very specialized weapons, not just an everyday dagger. So...yeah...ALMOST never done. Pretty much never done in battle, with very few exceptions, and almost never done in any form of combat outside extremely specific era of duels.
But go on, tell people ALL about how much you know from watching some HEMA videos.
Its like busting the katana bubble all over again.
I'll say it... for exactly the reason you then qualified "battlefield combat" versus the convenient use of "other forms of combat." :)
Duels are to a battlefield as a barfight is to a modern firefight. It's not unusual that "fads" have not only occurred in modern history, but were all the rage throughout human history. Street toughs proving their manhood in front of their friends was just as popular in ancient history as it has been today.
Where's the guy shoving a spear into the belly of some other guy in a "duel?" Why didn't they just fire a crossbow into their back? Who cares about some rapier and dagger combo-wielding dude when all you have to do is drop a suitably large rock on their head from a balcony or run over them with a horse?
Duels are a sort of "Ritualized Combat." They're really not about "combat" at all nor are they about "warfare." They're a romanticized version of simple interpersonal conflict and aggression. That they use "swords" in this case is secondary... If one examines "duels" they have no resemblance to "warfare" at all. In reality, if taken fully to the most extreme, they're "Ritualized Murder" in cases where a State has not sanctioned them as being "legal."
AFAIK, the only State that has dared to declare some form of warfare illegal is Japan, which sanctioned aggressive warfare. (IIRC, and I'd have to refresh myself to be sure.)
The whole point being that historic duels took place under radically different conditions than "warfare" and are often highly ritualized forms of interpersonal combat. In some conditions, they're little more than a deadly crime or "gang-related activity."
PS: I just wanted to address the difference between warfare and dueling, not get involved in any personal argument you may have going on atm. ;)
Yes the downsides are there but it's for people who want to try it out just to see how it feels.
Probably what i think, it isn't as effective as a shield defense wise but you can block 2 angles Though you are unbalanced when doing it making you weak to side and back attackers.
Yeah it wouldnt be a good idea to do it in a large battle, but possibly in the arena? I'd try that.
Well, in the "What if" category...
How could we possibly control offhand weapons with the degree of control we have right now?
In a "button mash" kind of game, the devs would just add different keys to enable different animations for secondary attacks.
In Bannerlord/Warband, the player controls their weapon using mouse-movement and that control is pretty direct. Would we have an "alt button" for the other hand?
I think things might get kind of confusing. Even controlling the camera/look would have to be involved, so you'd end up darting the camera left/right pretty constantly.
But... If we take the current Shield Bash mechanic, equip a weapon there, allow that weapon to either "Block" with the Shield Bash button if it encounters another weapon (as in main-hand combat already) as well as to "Attack" like a Shield Bash, but with Weapon damage and type.... Well, there ya go - Now you have a solution that provides some form of dual-wielding. It wouldn't have the control you'd want, but thank kind of control would be hard to attain anyway. :)