Cheaper banner much better?

[i-mod]

So I found couple banners whose effects confuse me:

1.: The Banner of the Desert Winds (15% increased troop movement speed), $400
2.: Rangers Flag (25% increased troop movement speed), $1500
3.: Tug of War of the Endless Steppes (10% increased mount movement speed, $10k ?!?!

From the wording, the first and second banner seem much better than the third.
They give more speed and affect the entire troop and not just the cavalry (if I understand correctly). But they'r only worth about $400/$1500, while the third banner is worth about $10,000.

So what am I missing?

[Action Man]

Foot troop vs Mounted Troop

[Cantung]

No Cheaper Banner's have reduced effect.

1.: The Banner of the Desert Winds (15% increased troop movement speed) Infantry only.
2.: Rangers Flag (25% increased troop movement speed) Infantry only.
3.: Tug of War of the Endless Steppes Cavalry Only.


There are currently 45 banners available in Bannerlord, excluding the Dragon Banner which you can obtain by completing Assemble the Dragon Banner.

~ If you don’t assign a companion who wields a banner to a specific group of troops as their captain, the companion will wield the banner in combat themselves. This can reduce their effectiveness in battle... So don't go Banner nuts

Only give banners to a captain.

[i-mod]

So you're saying that:
"troops" = foot soldiers only?

I thought "troops" = everyone in that formation (infantry,archer,mounted).

But what you guys are saying makes sense in terms of balance, but "troops" just meaning foot soldiers is a bit confusing to me.

[Cantung]

Originally posted by i-mod:

So you're saying that:
"troops" = foot soldiers only?

I thought "troops" = everyone in that formation (infantry,archer,mounted).

The wording is misleading.
In this case, troop does not refer to every type of unit in your army.

[GIJoe597]

Cantung, may I know your source/reference material which allowed you to come to this conclusion?

[Cantung]

There are a few wiki's but I took a quick look at this one when I wrote that reply.

https://www.gamerguides.com/mount-and-blade-ii-bannerlord/guide/introduction/useful-gameplay-tips/how-banners-work-in-bannerlord

But I think the thing about companions holding banners who are not captains may no longer be true. As I have not seen this happening in latest v1.2.0. But have seen in in early versions.

[GIJoe597]

I read that link, (which is an informal guide from a website trying to make money), and I saw nothing stating which type of troop each banner was meant for. Perhaps you could link the exact text where it is found?

I have never found a reliable source, for example, Taleworlds post detailing exactly who can benefit from which banner. That is what I am looking for. Above you typed that Troop only refers to a certain unit type. Where does TW explain that?

[Cantung]

My conclusion regarding which troop type benefits from a given effect is empirical.

To which units do Banner buffs apply When when entering Bandit hideouts is still unclear to me.

none of us are alone in finding this matter not exactly crystal clear, as a quick internet search can show.

Others have also wondered about this...

https://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php?threads/cheaper-banner-is-better.458953/

There are many curious questions unanswered about Banners.
It is not straightforward.


Questions I still have are;
1. if you add units to a bannered formation during battle, do they begin to also get buffed?
2. The banner is never visible on the captain if it is just him alone. Does that mean the banner is not working?

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3116871477
There must be at least 3 members in a bannered formation or otherwise you can not see it. Is it still working?