Mount & Blade II: Bannerlord

Mount & Blade II: Bannerlord

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funkmonster7 Dec 10, 2023 @ 8:59am
Noble Long Bow on horseback
For ♥♥♥♥'s sake, a bug that cost me half my fortune... Is it true that after 4 years, this bug is still not fixed? I can't use it on horseback, but the item icon doesn't indicate that it can't be used on horseback.
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Clovis Sangrail Dec 12, 2023 @ 6:55am 
Originally posted by LKAI:
That is quite old, 3 years old, more modules have been added since that you shouldn't delete.
What are you talking about? 1.1.6 is current mainline.
funkmonster7 Dec 12, 2023 @ 8:57am 
Nah, the "bug" is still there.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3112400098

I have done exactly the entire reinstallation process. And I also swear I saw that Noble Long Bow never had the "cannot use on mount" icon even before I started installing mods. I wasn't certain but I played unmodded far longer than I did modded (100 hours before I tried to mod).

I should clarify, I'm playing on Sandbox mode right now, if that makes any difference.
Last edited by funkmonster7; Dec 12, 2023 @ 9:00am
Action Man Dec 12, 2023 @ 9:10am 
I've played in both Sandbox and story, and I get that tooltip. If you're sure that character has the correct perk, then report it to TaleWorlds on their forums so they can get it fixed. I'm playing an older version than you and I'm not having that issue.
Clovis Sangrail Dec 12, 2023 @ 9:30am 
Sandbox should not make any difference.

Did you do all the manual deletions described in that Tech Support document, or did you just short cut it and uninstall and reinstall and call it good?

Did you delete your corrupted save files?

Did you check for hidden files?

If you did not do everything in this document -- How to remove modifications -- https://steamcommunity.com/app/261550/discussions/17/2968397584539744282/ -- then you have not completely cleaned up your mod mess.

So put your big boy pants on and take responsibility for what you did to your game and follow the instructions (all of the instructions) for cleaning up the borked pile of crap your game has become.

You can report it to TW, but if you've had mods installed, they will not bother with you.
Last edited by Clovis Sangrail; Dec 12, 2023 @ 9:33am
funkmonster7 Dec 12, 2023 @ 7:46pm 
Originally posted by Clovis Sangrail:
So put your big boy pants on and take responsibility for what you did to your game and follow the instructions (all of the instructions) for cleaning up the borked pile of crap your game has become.
Listen, dickwipe, I followed every single instruction to the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ letter. Don't tell me to put my big boy pants on and ♥♥♥♥, I don't want to hear insults coming from someone for no damn reason.

I did all the manual deletion. I deleted my corrupted save file. I checked for hidden files. And lastly, I'm pretty sure I saw no icon even before I started modding. The reason is I had an archer build in mind from the beginning, and I was checking out the equipment list in the shops. The first time I noticed longbows (including Ranger Bows which don't have the word "long" in it) not being usable on horseback, it had an extra icon in it. So I checked for every bow that I could use on horseback, and at the time Noble Long Bow didn't have that icon.

I HAD NOT STARTED MODDING YET AT THE TIME.

So stop throwing insults.

Also, the game isn't borked. It's missing an icon for one specific item. I haven't noticed anything else out of ordinary. And also, my mod didn't touch equipment at all. I can't remember what it was exactly, but it was probably Improved Garrison or something recommended by someone in this community, or by some YouTuber. (Actually I know it's not Improved Garrison but I'm just trying to raise an example.)

Originally posted by funkmonster7:
Nah, the "bug" is still there.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3112400098

I have done exactly the entire reinstallation process. And I also swear I saw that Noble Long Bow never had the "cannot use on mount" icon even before I started installing mods. I wasn't certain but I played unmodded far longer than I did modded (100 hours before I tried to mod).

I should clarify, I'm playing on Sandbox mode right now, if that makes any difference.

What I said clearly did not throw any insult at anyone, I don't see why you have to tell me to put some big boy pants on like you're some ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hotshot.

Perhaps it should be made clear by the community that modding actually does all kinds of ♥♥♥♥ to your game, and no one should be recommending any mod to anyone new to the community (in this case I belong to the latter). I know TW doesn't take responsibility for anything mod-related, but who would've thought a mod can actually break something that persists through reinstallation? Even after I followed every instruction to the letter.

I also tested this with a new save file. The shop didn't sell Noble Long Bow nor Noble Bow and I figured it's because my clan tier was 1 (or my bow skill was too low) so with my new character I leveled up bow skill etc until I found the item in the shop. The screenshot I produced was from all that effort.

Hell, my mod wasn't even a long list. It was just "ONE" mod. FFS.
Last edited by funkmonster7; Dec 12, 2023 @ 7:55pm
funkmonster7 Dec 12, 2023 @ 8:01pm 
I'm gonna repeat the steps again, just to make sure. Honestly, none of my save files really matter me to me in the long run anyway. Deleting and restarting is easy for me.

But just so you know, don't insult me and call me irresponsible when all I'm trying to do is work out a problem. Toxic community even in a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ single-player game. ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ elitists are everywhere these days.

Edit 1: I'm gonna document every step I've done. So far, I've uninstalled the game, deleted the entire folders with the name "Mount and Blade 2: Bannerlord" in steamapps, the hidden folder, and the save folder in My Documents. Now I'm reinstalling.

I can't do the "delete local content" option because there isn't such an option on Steam Library. However, I've used the search function on my PC to look for every document and folder that has the name "Mount and Blade 2: Bannerlord" or anything similar. Only 3 documents show up, but they have nothing to do with M&B since they existed long before I even purchased this game.

I technically only deleted everything in these three locations yesterday, I didn't delete the folders themselves. This time I deleted the folders themselves. Literally not a single M&B folder exists in anything on my PC now other than the Recycle Bin. By everything, I mean everything since I'm searching each word in "Mount and Blade 2: Bannerlord" (except for "2" since that is just over-the-top unnecessary).

Edit 2: download and reinstallation completed, gonna do a test run and check things out.

Edit 3: Yup it seems this time the problem is fixed. I'm guessing when I deleted the files, there were hidden files inside non-hidden folders, which I missed since I assumed the hidden files were only inside the hidden folders.

I'm not modding this game ever again, lesson learned.

Although I still maintain that using phrases like "put your big boy pants on" is unnecessary. So, to Clovis Sangrail as much as I thank you for helping me, you can still take my middle finger.
Last edited by funkmonster7; Dec 13, 2023 @ 1:05am
crypticmetaphor Dec 13, 2023 @ 1:08am 
Originally posted by Blackout4711:
As an unironic IRL archer, i CTFU at the thought of using a longbow on horseback. A longbow is bigger than a man how in the good lord's name could anyone but the silliest of clowns be willing and able to use a longbow on a horse? It's like trying to put a bar fridge on a motorbike

check out traditional japanese horse archery, for the most part they dont use shortbows. their bows are asymmetrical though, so it may help with the process
funkmonster7 Dec 13, 2023 @ 3:51am 
Took me a while, but I finally found the damn culprit of this bug. There is indeed a bug.

It is in the Birth and Death Options mod, which is a TW mod.

How I know is earlier when I did a fresh reinstall, I literally had no mod active, even "official" mods (if Birth and Death Options is considered an official mod since it has TW icon next to it). I made a new character, indeed Noble Long Bow has the icon that says it cannot be used on mount.

I restarted my game, but before I did I activated Birth and Death Options mod, and made another new character, purely to test and see if it was this mod that disabled the icon for Noble Long Bow. And lo and behold; it indeed was this official mod, since Noble Long Bow no longer has the icon.

This would explain why I thought I had not seen that icon even though I had not started modding. I didn't consider Birth and Death Options to be a mod.

I guess even Mr. Know-It-All Clovis Dickwipe doesn't know something after all.
Last edited by funkmonster7; Dec 13, 2023 @ 3:55am
Ruffio Dec 13, 2023 @ 5:37am 
On latest beta version, noble longbow show as not useable on horse... with and death enabled. Safe to say whatever bugs you might find or encounter on 1.1.6 these days. That branch wont get patched or updated. Before 1.2.x get pushed to main.
Clovis Sangrail Dec 13, 2023 @ 5:47am 
Except I have that Birth and Death Options module turned on in 1.1.6, and I still have the 'No Horses Allowed' icon on Noble Long Bow.

Explain that.
Last edited by Clovis Sangrail; Dec 13, 2023 @ 5:48am
Action Man Dec 13, 2023 @ 5:54am 
I also have Birth and Death enabled, and I get the tooltip.
funkmonster7 Dec 13, 2023 @ 8:50am 
Originally posted by Clovis Sangrail:
Except I have that Birth and Death Options module turned on in 1.1.6, and I still have the 'No Horses Allowed' icon on Noble Long Bow.

Explain that.
No clue. I can't explain a bug. But I definitely do not encounter it with Birth and Death Options mod disabled. I even took a screenshot of it earlier as proof.

Since you're the guy with the big boy pants on, why don't you explain instead?

Or are you going to tell me that after I deleted every single Mount and Blade folder that exists on my computer, including all hidden folders (and I even used the search function on my PC to search for these folders), this still doesn't fix a borked mod installation that doesn't even touch equipment? How would you then explain the solution you pointed me to? Which I carried out this same step twice in a row with very little variance between them.

Is your best answer this pathetic excuse -
Originally posted by Clovis Sangrail:
If you did not do everything in this document -- How to remove modifications -- https://steamcommunity.com/app/261550/discussions/17/2968397584539744282/ -- then you have not completely cleaned up your mod mess.

So put your big boy pants on and take responsibility for what you did to your game and follow the instructions (all of the instructions) for cleaning up the borked pile of crap your game has become.
- which is effectively a baseless assumption?

At the very least, if Ruffio says the latest beta version has this bug fixed, then I'm happy with that answer. Like I said, a missing icon doesn't break my game.
Last edited by funkmonster7; Dec 13, 2023 @ 8:53am
funkmonster7 Dec 13, 2023 @ 8:51am 
Originally posted by Action Man:
I also have Birth and Death enabled, and I get the tooltip.
Honestly, I would've asked you which version you're playing, but whatever. Thanks for your help though. You're the kindest guy who responded in this thread so far. I appreciate that.
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