My PSU or game problem? Please give insight/help.

[KedrynFuel]

I've almost 700 hours and this happens rarely but it's been happening a-lot more commonly in the last few months to a year (on a different game) (About 6 times in the last few days)

So randomly when playing Bannerlord it will cause my entire card to crash.
(I have a 3060 and when the game does do this both my monitors and graphics card goes off and i have to FORCE shutdown on the back panel where the PSU is)

My current PSU is MONTECH Gamma II 750W 80+ Gold. My friend has told me that they can be finicky to say the least, but i run other games absolutely fine (fallout 3, fallout 4, skyrim and they're all heavily modded)

Is Bannerlord just taking up too much of something causing my card to shutoff?.
Is it my PSU? This used to happen in Rust too but i don't play that anymore.
Should i just dim down all my game settings to medium? low? I don't wanna quit playing due to it forcing me to restart my pc every hour to few hours.
I even fully reset my pc just to see yesterday and it still crashes today..
Thanks in advance to anyone who cares to read all this.

[Urmel]

a rtx 3060 only need max 160 w , thats nothing.

[Ruffio]

Urmel の投稿を引用：

if its a heat problem play with a fps-limit 60 v-sync on. problem solved.

The game is heavier on the CPU than the GPU... Limit fps would probably not be enough. Clean the case and get better cooling would.

[Lemön]

I had the exact same thing happen to me yesterday. Entire PC crashed twice yesterday while I was playing and I had to reboot the entire system. Didn't happen to me in other games. I'm playing on a RTX 4080 with a 1000w EVGA powersupply. Not sure if its a hardware issue or a software issue.

[KinglySnek]

Having the same issue, only game where I get an entire crash is bannerlord 1000w Corsair PSU and 7900xtx

[Urmel]

with this high-end systems you all have, i assume its a heat problem from the CPU.

intel-CPU need 300+ watt, so water-cooling is a must.
and some high core AMD cpu (he have 16 cores, thats not a gaming pc) maybe can have over 200+ watt.

you dont need 150 or 200 fps... fps limit 100 or 60 is enough for bannerlord.

[Morkonan]

Urmel の投稿を引用：

a rtx 3060 only need max 160 w , thats nothing.

You do realize there's a little more required than just the slot watts, right?

A 750 Watt PSU would be at the very lowest end of the scale of PSU. I don't even know if they make lower than that, these days. I wouldn't build a mid-range PC with less than 1000.

Urmel の投稿を引用：

if its a heat problem play with a fps-limit 60 v-sync on. problem solved.

While I wouldn't declare "problem solved" it's not a bad suggestion to troubleshoot with that and get some data to compare with other settings.

[Horked]

So for a long time Ive been suspecting that the game is memory leaking in one or more instances. Keep seeing these kinds of threads where my sus is just enforced. Im not sure if a mem leak would cause an entire system crash/shutdown - though I wouldnt be surprised if it could.

Im also using dual monitors on an AMD system, 16GB RAM. rx6800 GPU. My PSU is a Corsair RM850i. Never tried this "system shock" shutdown/crash.

[Khergit Horse Archer]

Horked の投稿を引用：

So for a long time Ive been suspecting that the game is memory leaking in one or more instances. Keep seeing these kinds of threads where my sus is just enforced. Im not sure if a mem leak would cause an entire system crash/shutdown - though I wouldnt be surprised if it could.

Im also using dual monitors on an AMD system, 16GB RAM. rx6800 GPU. My PSU is a Corsair RM850i. Never tried this "system shock" shutdown/crash.

it can cause it to crash, but usually it would display a BSOD and telling you it ran out of memory

[Horked]

https://seasonic.com/wattage-calculator

My system = 406watts

[Morkonan]

Horked の投稿を引用：

...
Im also using dual monitors on an AMD system, 16GB RAM. rx6800 GPU. My PSU is a Corsair RM850i. Never tried this "system shock" shutdown/crash.

Bannerlord has had issues in the past with multi-mon and odd monitor configs. AMD, too. So, while I wouldn't be surprised if there was a memory leak somewhere, associated with something, that doesn't have to be the cause. If it was a factor and a general cause, you'd probably see many more complaints.

I wouldn't trust Bannerlord on a multi-mon setup and would force the display at the OS/Driver level to one monitor and/or setup a custom config for it. YMMV, but its worth troubleshooting with a defaut config, first, before suspecting a "memory leak."

[Horked]

Try and launch the game, join an MP server and go spec. Tab out and browse. Maybe go to Steam (via the SHIFT+TAB overlay) and browse it. If you have Discord, open it and browse some servers. After 4-5mins, try tab back into the game and check your FPS.

I dont have the game installed since a while now so this could have been fixed or solved somehow. But I tried this on multiple occations, where I had to reload the client because insane FPS drop

[Morkonan]

Horked の投稿を引用：

Try and launch the game, join an MP server and go spec. Tab out and browse. Maybe go to Steam (via the SHIFT+TAB overlay) and browse it. If you have Discord, open it and browse some servers. After 4-5mins, try tab back into the game and check your FPS.

I dont have the game installed since a while now so this could have been fixed or solved somehow. But I tried this on multiple occations, where I had to reload the client because insane FPS drop

I would imagine BattlEye might be involved, there. Just a thought. (It's going to get extra-perky when a dependent connection is made and all that stuff flying around may get it really excited...)

[Horked]

Good point. Its just that Bannerlord is the only game doing this. ArmA is using BattlEye as well and I have zero issues here.

[Horked]

About the Dual Monitor issues I had (didnt cause me to crash or anything like that, just slightly annoying)

This solution worked for me and Im sure it will also help for many other strange issues, its worth trying.

elysebluemoon_TW の投稿を引用：

Can you please check and make sure that the game is on the controlled folder access allowed apps list in your security software?
Well known security software that may be tied with the issue is Windows Defender.
If you are using Windows Defender:
- Open Windows Defender Security Center.
- Click on Virus & threat protection.
- Click the Virus & threat protection settings option.
- Under "Controlled folder access," click the Allow an app through Controlled folder access link.
- Click the Add an allowed app button.

(BSS-5805)

[Ruffio]

Ryzen 7 2700x , 32gb ram, RTX 3060. Corsair 1000w psu, dual monitors. Not had any issues with crashing, freezing etc. Only issue I had related to dual monitors is if I tab out, and then the game change resolution sometimes when tab back in.

If you want to stress test your system. Download one of those free benchmark programs.

GPU's can reach quite high temps under load. Seeing such as 70-85c under high load isn't abnormal or necessary dangerous. Modern day cards should start throttle before they blow out.

CPU's reaching into 70-80c's not necessary dangerous, but high temp over time not really healthy either. Modern day motherboards have auto shutdown features that will protect your system if it get to hot.