Binding minor clans/others permanently to your kingdom?

[st0815]

Hi, can I get minor clans or other clans as vassals for my kingdom?

[Ruffio]

Under certain circumstances you used to be able to recruit them as vassals, but they would be prone to leave again even you gave them a fief.

Just recruit normal clans and keep them happy -)

[Seggellion]

Originally posted by Ruffio:

Under certain circumstances you used to be able to recruit them as vassals, but they would be prone to leave again even you gave them a fief.

Just recruit normal clans and keep them happy -)

In my experience, this is correct. The game's default minor clans always leave you when you recruit them even if you give them towns. If you truly want only minor clans in your kingdom, then you should consider promoting your companions only since they turn into tier 2 clans and take time to level up.

[st0815]

Originally posted by Seggellion:

Originally posted by Ruffio:

Under certain circumstances you used to be able to recruit them as vassals, but they would be prone to leave again even you gave them a fief.

Just recruit normal clans and keep them happy -)

In my experience, this is correct. The game's default minor clans always leave you when you recruit them even if you give them towns. If you truly want only minor clans in your kingdom, then you should consider promoting your companions only since they turn into tier 2 clans and take time to level up.

How do i promote them?

[Ruffio]

Originally posted by st0815:

Originally posted by Seggellion:

In my experience, this is correct. The game's default minor clans always leave you when you recruit them even if you give them towns. If you truly want only minor clans in your kingdom, then you should consider promoting your companions only since they turn into tier 2 clans and take time to level up.

How do i promote them?

Talk to a companion, and reward them. You need a bunch of gold, some influence and have a fief to give them.

[Seggellion]

If I recall correctly, you need to speak to them outside of a fief; otherwise, the dialogue option will not appear.

[st0815]

Originally posted by Seggellion:

If I recall correctly, you need to speak to them outside of a fief; otherwise, the dialogue option will not appear.

I will try it once all the other empires stop declaring war on my poor little 2 fiefs...

I never even attacked anyone. I got the cities from rebels.

[Ruffio]

Originally posted by st0815:

Originally posted by Seggellion:

If I recall correctly, you need to speak to them outside of a fief; otherwise, the dialogue option will not appear.

I will try it once all the other empires stop declaring war on my poor little 2 fiefs...

I never even attacked anyone. I got the cities from rebels.

You are weak and feeble, you are a upstart frowned on by the nobility. They don't need a reason to war you. You are just a blight that need to be removed. So.. go out there and remove them -)

[Machiavelli]

Originally posted by st0815:

Originally posted by Seggellion:

If I recall correctly, you need to speak to them outside of a fief; otherwise, the dialogue option will not appear.

I will try it once all the other empires stop declaring war on my poor little 2 fiefs...

I never even attacked anyone. I got the cities from rebels.

That's how it worked in Warband. I miss right to rule though. The AI attacks those who are weak. That will you be at the start.

[Urmel]

if you are weak in warband, you have no chance with a own kingdom. doesnt matter if you have right to rule or not.

in bannerlord you must be clan tier 4 ... you could see this clan tier 4 like right to rule.
what i like is the possibility to be voted for king of a faction.

[st0815]

Originally posted by Urmel:

if you are weak in warband, you have no chance with a own kingdom. doesnt matter if you have right to rule or not.

in bannerlord you must be clan tier 4 ... you could see this clan tier 4 like right to rule.
what i like is the possibility to be voted for king of a faction.

Hard to rule with a 190 men max army^^ With all my companion parties and a minor clan (why do they barely recruit any new troops???) I have around 400 troops in my army. Enough to win a siege against 750 troops but not enough to win a war. Do the enemies ever get tired of war?

[Ruffio]

Originally posted by st0815:

Originally posted by Urmel:

if you are weak in warband, you have no chance with a own kingdom. doesnt matter if you have right to rule or not.

in bannerlord you must be clan tier 4 ... you could see this clan tier 4 like right to rule.
what i like is the possibility to be voted for king of a faction.

Hard to rule with a 190 men max army^^ With all my companion parties and a minor clan (why do they barely recruit any new troops???) I have around 400 troops in my army. Enough to win a siege against 750 troops but not enough to win a war. Do the enemies ever get tired of war?

You "pay tribute" to end wars.... So pay to hold off some wars, meanwhile fight others.

Imho, by the time you going to form a kingdom, you should already then have maxed your clan parties with good skilled leaders. Shouldn't be to hard to form an army out of your own clan reaching into 800-1k range.

I think you rushed to form a kingdom without consider what it actually take to keep said kingdom.

[st0815]

Originally posted by Ruffio:

Originally posted by st0815:

Hard to rule with a 190 men max army^^ With all my companion parties and a minor clan (why do they barely recruit any new troops???) I have around 400 troops in my army. Enough to win a siege against 750 troops but not enough to win a war. Do the enemies ever get tired of war?

You "pay tribute" to end wars.... So pay to hold off some wars, meanwhile fight others.

Imho, by the time you going to form a kingdom, you should already then have maxed your clan parties with good skilled leaders. Shouldn't be to hard to form an army out of your own clan reaching into 800-1k range.

I think you rushed to form a kingdom without consider what it actually take to keep said kingdom.

It is my first kingdom so I make all sorts of mistakes. I wasn't attacked for month so I never paid much attention to increasing my army.

[thommikel]

Why would you even start a kingdom with those few measly holdings?

[st0815]

Originally posted by thommikel:

Why would you even start a kingdom with those few measly holdings?

Because kingdoms are cool?^^ When I started it I just had a single castle. Since then I got 2 more cities. I need an army to conquer cities and that means I need a kingdom.

Sadly I messed the dragon banner quest up because I already am a king and want to stay independent.

[Urmel]

you dont need a army or be king to conquer a castle or town. you can attack rebell-towns and take them for yourself playing a independant clan.

if you have basic knowledge about sieges you can attack a town with 300+ defender and a party with 150 units.

(take siege engines in reserve and place all 3 or 4 together, destroy 1 wall)