CTD Object reference not set to an instance of an object

[Critix]

Hi Guys,

Been having this constant error pop up that has been causing me to crash to desktop everytime at the same instance, when i attempt to go back a save, it can sometimes go past that crash point but will later occur again at a different instance. it happens only on the campaign map and It seems to be caused by an AI army of some kind. I always get the same error message popup on the error report where it details "Object reference not set to an instance of an object"
and the report is as follows:

https://report.butr.link/047DAF.html

It seems to trigger when an Ai army runs out of food and relies on livestock?

I do have quite a few mods enabled which are all the updated versions (from listed on their sites) and has worked fine up to this point. The frustrating part is that the error report does not list the involved modules so i cant even narrow down what mod is causing the error.

Does anyone know what may be causing this crash?

Thanks

[Khergit Horse Archer]

unlikely you will get any support but what you can do is, test that the big overhaul mods play well with each other.

if they do not cause any issue, move on to test the smaller mods maybe two or three mods at a time.

good luck.

[Critix]

hmm, thanks for the reply, i'm about 40 hours into this play through and have not encountered any issues except for this specific one that is a constant nuisance, the first time it happened, i had to resort to going back about an hour from the last save and start off there which did help avoid that issue occurring again, its like as if when any army runs out of food and they resort to slaughtering their livestock, this error than comes up, if there was a way to avoiding that happening it would be ideal.

I am going through each mod just to see if i can get past this point, so far I've had no luck but will keep trying

thanks again

[Critix]

Just finished going through each mod to see if removing any mod fixes the crash, seems to not be the case, the crash still persists with the same report, just wish the report actually did it's job and told me what was actually causing the crash

[Gideon]

Try this mod https://www.nexusmods.com/mountandblade2bannerlord/mods/2513 Butr loader. its a launcher that fixes common issues (has to be enabled btw) with the game and has a version of exception window built in so that you can see whats causing the crashes. when you get a CTD just check the window and check "Involved Modules" it should tell you.

[Critix]

tried that also bud, from the start since bannerlord is such a greatly optimised game, i had to install BLSE in order to actually get the vanilla game to run, i later added mods to make the game less dull, i tried using BUTRloader as you suggested but upon crash, it still gave me the same report with no "involved modules" highlighted. I cant really even start a new game with only some of the mods as i dont know which mod is causing the issue.

[DemonicSquid]

You are going to have to disable all your mods and re-enable them one-by-one until it crashes, then you know the culprit.

However, given it's a campaign system error, you will want to try removing any mod that might affect that. Possible mods would be: Governer's handle issues, Houses of Calradia, War and AI tweaks, Encyclopedia extender (this caused me some issues a while back), Family Tree, BannerKings (most likely suspect), Fourberie, Surrender Tweaks, Calradia at war, and Calradia factions enhanced.

In my experience Bannerkings does not play nicely with quite a few mods, especially smithing ones, but I've had this error with Bannerkings conflicting with other stuff before and ended up getting rid of bannerkings completely. It might not be BK obviously, but you can see what conflicts by putting BK right at the bottom of your load order, and then disabling the mods above one by one until the error goes.

If you remove BK, you can say goodbye to your save alas.

[Clovis Sangrail]

Originally posted by Critix:

, just wish the report actually did it's job and told me what was actually causing the crash

OP slams in a bunch of mods, then blame the game because it doesn't tell him which one fubared his game.

[ShayRey]

Originally posted by Clovis Sangrail:

Originally posted by Critix:

, just wish the report actually did it's job and told me what was actually causing the crash

OP slams in a bunch of mods, then blame the game because it doesn't tell him which one fubared his game.

Because he already proved it wasn't the mods, he said he checked to see which mod caused it already and still experienced the same issue.

[Clovis Sangrail]

Originally posted by ShayRey:

Originally posted by Clovis Sangrail:

OP slams in a bunch of mods, then blame the game because it doesn't tell him which one fubared his game.

Because he already proved it wasn't the mods, he said he checked to see which mod caused it already and still experienced the same issue.

I would bet you dollars to doughnuts he hasn't deleted them but has merely disabled them. Only way to tell for sure is to delete them all and probably reinstallbecause there may be mod lint left behind.

Plus there is a non-zero probability whatever mod is causing this has corrupted his save file.

Moral: Do not dump in all your mods at once.

[Critix]

@Demonicsquid - I have to say thanks for the feedback and the mention of Bannerkings, after testing it WAS narrowed down to Bannerkings, disabling the mod completely would cause the game to not run at all but just by lowering the mod further down the list after the Tweaks and distinguished service (Likely second contender) it seems to now be running fine more than likely it overwrote some vital files for armies which was a nuisance!
Thanks again for the comments and help from you all - I will leave the discussion open though incase anyone else encounters a similar problem!

@Clovis Sangrail - I appreciate the comment.. but i haven't derailed this game in anyway, i love this game but bare in mind i had to install addons and mods in order to even run the vanilla game shows how much improvement is still required for it..what IS frustating however, not just with this game but many is when a game breaks, a crash report is meant to display the cause of the crash...yet it doesn't, at that point it may as well of told me that it crashed "because the sky is too blue".. not helpful information in the slightest. Deleting mods may work on other games but not for this game, simply removing it from the modules folder does the job which disabling a mod, does. Bare in mind this game has ran great for 40 hours without issues, as i did do test runs without crashes also but would not of picked up this issue so early on. Hope that makes sense.

[ghosttost]

i have the same problem and i cant do anything about it

[ghosttost]

i tried reinstaling game

[ghosttost]

and this didnt help

[ghosttost]

i have mod that show what is wrong when game is crasing and it showed me that is provlem with vanilla