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Teralitha Jul 10, 2023 @ 11:02pm
We Need Option To Disable Garrison Troops Upgrading
This option is available in the party menu but we need it for garrisons too. I dont want my troops to keep auto upgrading in my garrisons. This means I have to keep micro managing them to keep expenses down.

Pls add an option to disable garrison upgrading in the garrison management screen.

Also Sturgia troops in garrison upgrade into a ridiculous amount of cavalry. They turn recruits into woodsman, then heaps of brigands and then the brigand riders, while they are only upgrading a very small amount into archers. I am having to train the recruits myself into hunters or soldiers before sticking them in the garrison to prevent the horde of brigands.

Its quite an annoyance. I need archers and infantry to protect my garrisons, not cavalry. I also dont want expensive troops filling it up either.
Last edited by Teralitha; Jul 10, 2023 @ 11:25pm
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Trip Jul 10, 2023 @ 11:51pm 
Have you tried the Improved Garrisons mod?
Teralitha Jul 10, 2023 @ 11:52pm 
Originally posted by Trip:
Have you tried the Improved Garrisons mod?
I dont use mods.
flyingscot1066 Jul 11, 2023 @ 12:39am 
While this would be a good option, and I hope they do implement it, you currently have options to do what you're asking for already.
1. set a cap on your garrison salary. Won't prevent upgrades, or branch choices you don't like, but it'll save you money.
2. use bandits. No, seriously. Forest Bandits and Sea Raiders make superior defensive troops at lower tiers than standard troops, and they can only be upgraded so high, and they can't be turned into cavalry unless you do it by choice using Veteran's Respect perk. Also, if you get 150 Roguery, they are free to recruit. Poachers are also cheap archers, and are limited to tier2.
3. Cavalry aren't useless as garrisons. There are governor perks which rely on cavalry being in the garrison, and most are pretty good fighting on foot.
Teralitha Jul 11, 2023 @ 1:13am 
Originally posted by flyingscot1066:
While this would be a good option, and I hope they do implement it, you currently have options to do what you're asking for already.
1. set a cap on your garrison salary. Won't prevent upgrades, or branch choices you don't like, but it'll save you money.
2. use bandits. No, seriously. Forest Bandits and Sea Raiders make superior defensive troops at lower tiers than standard troops, and they can only be upgraded so high, and they can't be turned into cavalry unless you do it by choice using Veteran's Respect perk. Also, if you get 150 Roguery, they are free to recruit. Poachers are also cheap archers, and are limited to tier2.
3. Cavalry aren't useless as garrisons. There are governor perks which rely on cavalry being in the garrison, and most are pretty good fighting on foot.

Yea I already use the available option of micro managing.
Xequilibrium Jul 11, 2023 @ 5:25am 
I play battania and they upgr most of the troops to inf.
Teralitha Jul 12, 2023 @ 5:41am 
Originally posted by Xequilibrium:
I play battania and they upgr most of the troops to inf.
All the factions probably have wacky upgrade protocols. But its beta, things will change if we raise concerns.
Last edited by Teralitha; Jul 12, 2023 @ 5:41am
Xequilibrium Jul 12, 2023 @ 6:00am 
True :)!
legend player Jul 12, 2023 @ 8:00am 
if you use mods you cannot get achievement

Originally posted by Trip:
Have you tried the Improved Garrisons mod?
Blaze Shadowflame Jul 12, 2023 @ 10:06am 
Originally posted by legend player:
if you use mods you cannot get achievement

Originally posted by Trip:
Have you tried the Improved Garrisons mod?
There is a mod that re-enables achievements for modded games. Also useful when playing sandbox as that mode disables achievements even when vanilla.
Rhapsody Jul 12, 2023 @ 12:00pm 
Well, I can't say I have not ever desired such an option myself, and I have not played the 1.2 beta... but... Better troops -> better garrison -> smaller garrison -> more food -> more growth -> more denars in the long run. Better troops instead of more troops also means that on average you'll have less trash troops in siege battles than the attackers.

The real chore for me always was managing the many garrisons and having to visit each one separately and ending up with too many trash tier troops like recruits.
Teralitha Jul 12, 2023 @ 12:32pm 
Originally posted by Rhapsody:
Well, I can't say I have not ever desired such an option myself, and I have not played the 1.2 beta... but... Better troops -> better garrison -> smaller garrison -> more food -> more growth -> more denars in the long run. Better troops instead of more troops also means that on average you'll have less trash troops in siege battles than the attackers.

The real chore for me always was managing the many garrisons and having to visit each one separately and ending up with too many trash tier troops like recruits.

Well now you dont have to do that, the garrison upgrades your troops automatically, and for me that is a problem because I like to keep a balanced budget. I prefer the opposite. I prefer to have a full garrison but with cheaper troops and auto upgrading destroys my economic balance. When my income balance goes negative, I have to visit all my garrisons and delete the high tier troops that keep showing up.

So unless they boost fief incomes to compensate for this bad policy, we need an option to disable the auto upgrading.
Last edited by Teralitha; Jul 12, 2023 @ 12:37pm
VOLUME SHOOTER Jul 12, 2023 @ 12:33pm 
Originally posted by legend player:
if you use mods you cannot get achievement

Originally posted by Trip:
Have you tried the Improved Garrisons mod?
theres a mod to enable achievements
Clovis Sangrail Jul 12, 2023 @ 12:34pm 
I agree. What the OP suggested would be helpful.
Last edited by Clovis Sangrail; Jul 12, 2023 @ 12:48pm
Clovis Sangrail Jul 12, 2023 @ 12:35pm 
Originally posted by Senjuice:
Originally posted by legend player:
if you use mods you cannot get achievement
theres a mod to enable achievements

So you can stack cheese on top of cheese.
Rhapsody Jul 12, 2023 @ 12:41pm 
Originally posted by Teralitha:
Well now you dont have to do that, the garrison upgrades your troops automatically, and for me that is a problem because I like to keep a balanced budget.

That was already happening in older versions... but perhaps there's something I've missed. But sure, having a bit more control over the feature shouldn't be a bad thing.
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