1.2.0 Critical Review

[Alex-X-x]

https://youtu.be/fX4QNgnVTy8 i hope taleworlds will watch this and fix stuff they had broken/not fixed yet

[Urmel]

i didnt watch, read, hear whatever the link have. you could describe the "core-critic" in some short points here and all other can watch the 3h+ movie for more information (speculation).

and i dont like to critic a patch, that is a dream that come true and i didnt belive anymore...
i find atm 2 little bugs:
- you are kicked out from a siege fief, when a other merc left your faction
- if you sell all prisoners, the game dont ignore locked units that are not allowed to sell
- legendary armor items are too good, they are better then every DIABLO legendary , OP

this patch 1.2 is a dream. it makes be a king playable and adds the option of late-game.
thanks TW !

[Ruffio]

critic a beta patch of which purpose is to find and weed out bugs before push it to main branch seems a bit odd. Why not just wait until 1.2 goes main and then do a review of it.

[Balekai]

It's just a 20 minute video... You can read a few news articles or something while listening to it which I just did. :p

It's not only very constructive it's also very detailed and the author's attention to troubleshooting the fixes. changes etc. is very thorough. I think it would take longer to read about the above observations in the video than to just listen/watch the video.

If I was a dev this guy is basically your dream QA tester. The whole point of beta tests, is to beta test. Not praise changes and give no critical feedback. I just went through a beta test for 40K Rogue Trader and the attitude of devs/players wasn't "Well don't report bugs or give critical feedback on anything until release" lol. The whole point of betas is to do just that. :) :)

[Alex-X-x]

Originally posted by Urmel:

i didnt watch, read, hear whatever the link have. you could describe the "core-critic" in some short points here and all other can watch the 3h+ movie for more information (speculation).

and i dont like to critic a patch, that is a dream that come true and i didnt belive anymore...
i find atm 2 little bugs:
- you are kicked out from a siege fief, when a other merc left your faction
- if you sell all prisoners, the game dont ignore locked units that are not allowed to sell
- legendary armor items are too good, they are better then every DIABLO legendary , OP

this patch 1.2 is a dream. it makes be a king playable and adds the option of late-game.
thanks TW !

people this days, they aren't only lazy to read, but also to watch.

[Alex-X-x]

Originally posted by Ruffio:

critic a beta patch of which purpose is to find and weed out bugs before push it to main branch seems a bit odd. Why not just wait until 1.2 goes main and then do a review of it.

because if you report bugs of BETA patch, they might be fixed for 1.2 stable branch patch, how is that any odd?

[Ruffio]

Originally posted by Alex-X-x:

Originally posted by Ruffio:

critic a beta patch of which purpose is to find and weed out bugs before push it to main branch seems a bit odd. Why not just wait until 1.2 goes main and then do a review of it.

because if you report bugs of BETA patch, they might be fixed for 1.2 stable branch patch, how is that any odd?

A critical review on youtube isn't reporting bugs. Posting them on TW's site, help a whole lot more.

[Alex-X-x]

Originally posted by Ruffio:

Originally posted by Alex-X-x:

because if you report bugs of BETA patch, they might be fixed for 1.2 stable branch patch, how is that any odd?

A critical review on youtube isn't reporting bugs. Posting them on TW's site, help a whole lot more.

so, you are saying, TW is not reading steam forums @all?

[Maero]

He has a pretty big following on YT so I wouldn't be surprised if TW watched him,so that's a solid way of pointing out flaws

[Ruffio]

Originally posted by Alex-X-x:

Originally posted by Ruffio:

A critical review on youtube isn't reporting bugs. Posting them on TW's site, help a whole lot more.

so, you are saying, TW is not reading steam forums @all?

I'm saying TW isn't likely to sift through every video made about Bannerlord on youtube. Try check how many videos been made on the beta patch so far, there is quite a few. These videos made more for our benefit to be aware of what going on.

If you want to draw their attention make bug/issue reports here

https://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php?forums/singleplayer.658/

[ShadowFox]

Originally posted by Alex-X-x:

Originally posted by Urmel:

i didnt watch, read, hear whatever the link have. you could describe the "core-critic" in some short points here and all other can watch the 3h+ movie for more information (speculation).

and i dont like to critic a patch, that is a dream that come true and i didnt belive anymore...
i find atm 2 little bugs:
- you are kicked out from a siege fief, when a other merc left your faction
- if you sell all prisoners, the game dont ignore locked units that are not allowed to sell
- legendary armor items are too good, they are better then every DIABLO legendary , OP

this patch 1.2 is a dream. it makes be a king playable and adds the option of late-game.
thanks TW !

people this days, they aren't only lazy to read, but also to watch.

I'd rather read than watch a random youtube video. There is so much BS filler most of those 20 minute videos have like 2 minutes of content

[Alex-X-x]

Originally posted by ShadowFox:

Originally posted by Alex-X-x:

people this days, they aren't only lazy to read, but also to watch.

I'd rather read than watch a random youtube video. There is so much BS filler most of those 20 minute videos have like 2 minutes of content

to bad not a lot of people know this guy here it seems, i learnt how to play bannerlord through his insane detailed tech stat videos about bannerlord on how to. I can only recommend anyone his channel.

[Ruffio]

Originally posted by ShadowFox:

Originally posted by Alex-X-x:

people this days, they aren't only lazy to read, but also to watch.

I'd rather read than watch a random youtube video. There is so much BS filler most of those 20 minute videos have like 2 minutes of content

Content creators such as Strat Gaming, Flesson19, ItalianSpartacus etc put out some solid Bannerlord content though, I wouldn't brush them off as randos. Regardless how crtical reviews etc such creators make on youtube I don't really see it reach the devs. Not like some devs sit with pen and paper and take notes and sift through these videos. I know some of these have various degrees of communication with some of the devs though.

[ShadowFox]

Originally posted by Alex-X-x:

Originally posted by ShadowFox:

I'd rather read than watch a random youtube video. There is so much BS filler most of those 20 minute videos have like 2 minutes of content

to bad not a lot of people know this guy here it seems, i learnt how to play bannerlord through his insane detailed tech stat videos about bannerlord on how to. I can only recommend anyone his channel.

Originally posted by Ruffio:

Originally posted by ShadowFox:

I'd rather read than watch a random youtube video. There is so much BS filler most of those 20 minute videos have like 2 minutes of content

Content creators such as Strat Gaming, Flesson19, ItalianSpartacus etc put out some solid Bannerlord content though, I wouldn't brush them off as randos. Regardless how crtical reviews etc such creators make on youtube I don't really see it reach the devs. Not like some devs sit with pen and paper and take notes and sift through these videos. I know some of these have various degrees of communication with some of the devs though.

Didn't mean to insult any content creators in particular I just meant kind of a general blanket statement on youtube videos in general. Sometimes something as simple as how to change a bolt out on a desk chair gets turned into 35 minutes of "Hey whats up guys blahblahblah...." skip forward 10 minutes "And you know this particular chair was given to me by my grandfather who lived in peru for 3 years blahblahblah" skip forward 10 minutes "And thats how you change the bolt!" rewind 2 minutes "Okay guys and now this is how to swap out the bolt.

Might be my bad for not knowing who is actually good at making videos and who is just trying to hit those advertisement numbers (I think it used to be 10 minute minimum)

[ShadowFox]

Originally posted by Alex-X-x:

Originally posted by ShadowFox:

I'd rather read than watch a random youtube video. There is so much BS filler most of those 20 minute videos have like 2 minutes of content

to bad not a lot of people know this guy here it seems, i learnt how to play bannerlord through his insane detailed tech stat videos about bannerlord on how to. I can only recommend anyone his channel.

I'm really glad that he was helpful to you, and I didn't mean to disparage his video skills or anything I'm just not a big youtuber honestly :) I learn most games by doing or by asking people personally but shoot I might see if this youtuber can finally answer how the dang stealing command of a siege mechanics work. Me and like 4 other people tried to work it out recently but the rules are either more complex than we realized or something is still buggy with it

[Teralitha]

Originally posted by Alex-X-x:

https://youtu.be/fX4QNgnVTy8 i hope taleworlds will watch this and fix stuff they had broken/not fixed yet

You must be doing something wrong, because I almost never crash.

Also, did you make bug reports for all those issues you found?