OP Units

[Lumina]

So i just had a battle were 30 Battanian Fians and Falxman killed 90 sturgian heavy spearman. could you like fix this? they are way to strong right know even when playing on the lowest difficulty

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[I Throw Spears.]

Originally posted by Endwarrior98:

So i just had a battle were 30 Battanian Fians and Falxman killed 90 sturgian heavy spearman. could you like fix this? they are way to strong right know even when playing on the lowest difficulty

Yeah my dude, you sent a bunch of Anti-Cav against the best archers in the game, best unit in the game, and a bunch of battanian shock troops. You should lose that match.

[mors_orcusjb]

Originally posted by I Throw Spears.:

Originally posted by Endwarrior98:

So i just had a battle were 30 Battanian Fians and Falxman killed 90 sturgian heavy spearman. could you like fix this? they are way to strong right know even when playing on the lowest difficulty

Yeah my dude, you sent a bunch of Anti-Cav against the best archers in the game, best unit in the game, and a bunch of battanian shock troops. You should lose that match.

To be clear you think Falxman and archers are gonna crush a well coordinated shield wall???? ok

[I Throw Spears.]

Originally posted by mors_orcusjb:

Originally posted by I Throw Spears.:

Yeah my dude, you sent a bunch of Anti-Cav against the best archers in the game, best unit in the game, and a bunch of battanian shock troops. You should lose that match.

To be clear you think Falxman and archers are gonna crush a well coordinated shield wall???? ok

Yes??

Thats precisely what shock troops excel at. Falxmen are shock troops. Fians are both the best archers in the game, as well as being shock troops.

[lar unuruur]

NO! falx and fians did what are they supposed to do.

[fink]

Scenario: A master archer has to kill 3 enemy that are advancing on him. Would you think it is strange if he succeeds before they killed him?

30 master archers have to kill 3 enemies each. Simples.

[SarmatII]

Shock troops devastate shielded troops. It's by design and it's their only niche where they excel.

Also Fians are indeed OP, and without friendly fire dmg, they can shoot in small gaps in melee brawl once your melee engages and the enemy lower their shield to fight. gg

[killertowfoo]

Have you heard of the english longbowmen?

I didn't do any research into this game and knew I needed to make an army half of longbows and half cataphracts. Invincible armored horses that keep enemy at bay, distracted, flanks exposed, and in a tight formation while long ranged arrow barrages wipe everything out.

It is kinda OP. I've yet to encounter a drawback. The AI being far from genius tacticians helps. I think they should keep them powerful, but make it exponentially more costly somehow to train/sustain. With how many kills fians get in a typical battle, it feels like all it takes is 3-4 battles against peasants and bandits to get them to top tier. It's odd that top tier cavalry require a resource (war horses), but the top tier archer doesn't. Maybe require a unique lumber?

[currently_just-a-Dude]

In return bettanians have the weakest cav so in my opinion the Fians are totally fine. I really like the Fians even if I fight against them.

[Teralitha]

I never build sturgia heavy spearmen. They truly are the worst unit in the game. I dont know why they suck, but they do. Even lower teir sturgia soldiers and warriors do better than they do. same with the heavy axeman, for some unknown reason, they just die like its nothing. Totally useless units. But im sure they count for something in auto battles.

[Xequilibrium]

If your the strugian side then use druzhnik to kill the fians. Also spearmen aint that great. The axemen and linebreakers are way better.

[Landsknecht _]

Very bad matchup for your spearmen. Would have been great if you had some heavy sturgian cav at hands so you could put your spearmen in shield wall formation and while they are holding out against the falxmen your cav can take care of those Fians.

[Сааребас]

Wait unntill you meet a pure Khan's guards army

[Nikki6]

i have had over 200 of them ride at me... that is a hard fight for sure.. they are unrealistic in their ability to break you down. i use them as guards now

[Balekai]

Falxman use the Falx weapon which was designed by the Celts I believe, to counter Roman shields by piercing them and hitting the Roman behind it. I saw a video once on it where the pointy end hacked straight through the shield, the roman helmet and into dummy head from one strong overhead swing.

Falx weapons in game are some of the highest tier swords/polarms, and are almost the best in slot weapons due to high damage, reach/length + shield breaking.

Also as mentioned, spearmen are lackluster. It's just that AI sucks using them and those troops get cut down easily by two-handed weapons, swinging polearms and one-handed weapons.

Battanian Fians are basically the best archer and really the only Battanian unit that shines. The rest of their army is made up of of mostly inferior infantry that make up for it with some more skirmish viability (not really though). Battania has the worst cavalry too (infantry focused, forest loving, tree hugging faction that can't fix up their huts). :p