Why would you play Battania?

[Landsknecht _]

Army composition is boring as hell since the only viable unit is Fian Champion
Battanian women are beyond ugly. No wonder Battania is dead in Warband.
Towns and castles are a disgrace to human architecture. They are literally falling apart.

I don't know guys. I guess Battania is supposed to give us some celtic vibes but hell do they fail at that. They aren't even close to what celts have been.

Anyone out there maining Battania? Why are you doing this?

[Jihost]

I feel like you're missing the mark some. The Battanian military is heavily geared towards ambush and skirmishing operations, with their noble line being the best archers in the game(while also being reasonable 2H sword inf) and their infantry line is amazingly adept at inflicting throwing weapon damage (especially if you have the right formation lead). I also only see them getting stronger in the future once Taleworlds leans more into the faction balance.

As far as their architecture again you have to look at Battania as a once great culture and "nation" that has been heavily reduced by in-fighting and wars with the Calradian Empire prior to their civil war. Their cities show this with the actual size of some of them being FAR bigger than some of their more urban counterparts but vastly more geared towards defense, sometimes even between different districts (see the in-fighting). Basically when you look at a Battanian settlement you have to see it as a structure that has been destroyed and rebuilt multiple times, each time building directly over the last.

I'm intrigued as to why you think they fall flat with the Celtic references, as the Falx and longbow (throw the Welsh) can be considered as Celtic along with their skirmishing tendency. Their culture is also heavily oral tradition based which also draws inspiration from Celtic/Gaelic cultures.

[Ruffio]

A faction is just as good/bad as the player who play them. -)

[Jihost]

I want to add settlement wise that imo if sieges represented multiple levels of defence that are currently in place you'd see the Battanians be much more successful when defending based on their settlement design. Even more so than most other factions.

[ShadowFox]

Originally posted by Landsknecht _:

Army composition is boring as hell since the only viable unit is Fian Champion
Battanian women are beyond ugly. No wonder Battania is dead in Warband.
Towns and castles are a disgrace to human architecture. They are literally falling apart.

I don't know guys. I guess Battania is supposed to give us some celtic vibes but hell do they fail at that. They aren't even close to what celts have been.

Anyone out there maining Battania? Why are you doing this?

I like the units, the culture, the area and the general vibe. Don't let your racism keep you from trying out different groups it can be a lot of fun

[Teralitha]

People often ask why anyone would play as sturgia but I always do. because they are sleeper OP. I dunno... battania is very good at replenishing their armies quickly because all their towns and villages are in close proxiity to each other. As for how good the troops are? meh... I think their strongest build is the archers + horse raiders, but that isnt saying much. They can throw a ton of cheap infantry at you as well and overwhelm you.

I mean this is all just plaver vs AI we are talkin bout here. None of that stuff matter in AI vs AI auto battles.

[Roasted taters]

As far as culture bonus, Battania has the best of them all with the forest speed bonus and +1 militia production in towns.

[Legiondorf]

I picked Battania because of the cool tune, forest travel buff and white ginger guys but I joined Sturgia to simp for viking best wife Svana, the cool battle masks and AVALANCHE... at least until we form the Butter Kingdom.

[Fashbinder]

Speed in trees on map lets you catch people. Militia deters ai attacking. Its by far the best culture, way too op.

[Dave1029]

Originally posted by Ruffio:

A faction is just as good/bad as the player who play them. -)

I mean... it's objectively true that Fians are just way better than any other Battanian troop. Same with Khan's Guard. Empire and Aserai have the most balanced rosters in terms of wanting to make good sensible army comps.

[killertowfoo]

Wait which culture has the best looking women?

I recently discovered the barmaids have the biggest booties by a long shot, but you can't procreate with them (yet?)

[Sean]

OP: "Their troops suck and their women are mid"
No lie detected lmfao

[Legiondorf]

Originally posted by killertowfoo:

Wait which culture has the best looking women?

I recently discovered the barmaids have the biggest booties by a long shot, but you can't procreate with them (yet?)

Sturgia blondes are hotties but Corein locked up in my dungeon half naked is kind of cute... hmm bring her to the tower...

[Ruffio]

Originally posted by Dave1029:

Originally posted by Ruffio:

A faction is just as good/bad as the player who play them. -)

I mean... it's objectively true that Fians are just way better than any other Battanian troop. Same with Khan's Guard. Empire and Aserai have the most balanced rosters in terms of wanting to make good sensible army comps.

You as the player got agency over what units you want to use. You are free to "shop" units from all factions. Like you can play as Sturgia with beefy infantery and recruit fians to back them up.

As the AI expand and capture fiefs they too will recruit more local and their units will end up with a mish mash of troops.

[Sean]

Originally posted by Ruffio:

Originally posted by Dave1029:

I mean... it's objectively true that Fians are just way better than any other Battanian troop. Same with Khan's Guard. Empire and Aserai have the most balanced rosters in terms of wanting to make good sensible army comps.

You as the player got agency over what units you want to use. You are free to "shop" units from all factions. Like you can play as Sturgia with beefy infantery and recruit fians to back them up.

As the AI expand and capture fiefs they too will recruit more local and their units will end up with a mish mash of troops.

Yeah by the end of the game you're basically playing against the United Nations hordes regardless of who you are and who you're fighting. tbh it makes the late game monotonous and boring. If I see 70% of the map owned by the Kuzaits I wanna see endless waves of huns/mongols rolling everyone left and right but you actually fight them and it's just a random mob of people.

[Ruffio]

Originally posted by Sean:

Originally posted by Ruffio:

You as the player got agency over what units you want to use. You are free to "shop" units from all factions. Like you can play as Sturgia with beefy infantery and recruit fians to back them up.

As the AI expand and capture fiefs they too will recruit more local and their units will end up with a mish mash of troops.

Yeah by the end of the game you're basically playing against the United Nations hordes regardless of who you are and who you're fighting. tbh it makes the late game monotonous and boring. If I see 70% of the map owned by the Kuzaits I wanna see endless waves of huns/mongols rolling everyone left and right but you actually fight them and it's just a random mob of people.

I once had a campaign where Vlandia took over most of Battanai,then Battania took over most of sturgia, and Sturgia took over most of the Khuzaits. Seeing Sturgian armies made up mostfly of khuzait mounted units was a bit wacky. If you look at real world history it's not uncommon though. Alexander the great did recruit local as his campaign moved on. The Roman's had auxillaries that was recruited all over their empire and so on.