Mount & Blade II: Bannerlord

Mount & Blade II: Bannerlord

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Murder Lords?
I can't find any recent results from Google searches, but I've heard some people here mention offhand that mass executions is a great tactic.

I understand there's a dishonorable trait acquired, and it pisses off their friends, but what's the real downside to executing lords, and mercenaries?

Seems like if you just execute everyone, they'll eventually run out of party leaders. I capture 8-10 lords/mercenaries every war, and I just hold them, and ignore ransom requests, just to keep them out of the war. They tend to escape though, and what better way to keep them out, then separating them from their heads?

Will they really run out of lords, or will the game just spawn more BS no-name party leaders to compensate?
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Emperor2000 Nov 27, 2022 @ 7:10pm 
Originally posted by Figsak:
I can't find any recent results from Google searches, but I've heard some people here mention offhand that mass executions is a great tactic.

I understand there's a dishonorable trait acquired, and it pisses off their friends, but what's the real downside to executing lords, and mercenaries?

Seems like if you just execute everyone, they'll eventually run out of party leaders. I capture 8-10 lords/mercenaries every war, and I just hold them, and ignore ransom requests, just to keep them out of the war. They tend to escape though, and what better way to keep them out, then separating them from their heads?

Will they really run out of lords, or will the game just spawn more BS no-name party leaders to compensate?
Kill them in battle, no honor or relation loss, if they die in battle and there is a mod(Bannerlord Cheats), who you can increase the battle death chance for enemy heroes.
Last edited by Emperor2000; Nov 27, 2022 @ 7:10pm
★F¡G§åK★ Nov 27, 2022 @ 7:16pm 
Originally posted by Emperor2000:
Originally posted by Figsak:
I can't find any recent results from Google searches, but I've heard some people here mention offhand that mass executions is a great tactic.

I understand there's a dishonorable trait acquired, and it pisses off their friends, but what's the real downside to executing lords, and mercenaries?

Seems like if you just execute everyone, they'll eventually run out of party leaders. I capture 8-10 lords/mercenaries every war, and I just hold them, and ignore ransom requests, just to keep them out of the war. They tend to escape though, and what better way to keep them out, then separating them from their heads?

Will they really run out of lords, or will the game just spawn more BS no-name party leaders to compensate?
Kill them in battle, no honor or relation loss, if they die in battle and there is a mod(Bannerlord Cheats), who you can increase the battle death chance for enemy heroes.

I have the no death for named characters enabled. I head hunt them every battle, and they only come out injured. I assumed l executing them bypasses this option.
Ruffio Nov 27, 2022 @ 8:10pm 
the more you executer the harder it become to recruit lords to your kingdom. If you intend to paint the map with your kingdom you need to expand it with clans. If you don't you will run into security issues as bandit parties will start build up all over the place.
Gladius Victorius Nov 27, 2022 @ 8:13pm 
They run out of Lords but then the Woman/Wife of that Factions will take here place and after the Children if old enough but when even them are gone there faction will die and not be able to fight anymore. Have yesterday start my War against Battania in my new run and for some reason Battania chose to make 1 huge army with all there Male lords and trow it against me they loose after a huge fight short after a second army apear with all there Woman and i destroy even that after that 2 big battles nothing come anymore and i take entire Battania without any fight apart from the Sieges. Was the shortest and worst War i ever see and there was not even needed to execute the Lords as they loose all in 2 Fights at the same time until they was able to escape battania was gone
Last edited by Gladius Victorius; Nov 27, 2022 @ 8:15pm
Tanya Degurechaff Nov 28, 2022 @ 6:52am 
Originally posted by Ruffio:
the more you executer the harder it become to recruit lords to your kingdom. If you intend to paint the map with your kingdom you need to expand it with clans. If you don't you will run into security issues as bandit parties will start build up all over the place.
Patrols would fix this easily but reasons
★F¡G§åK★ Nov 28, 2022 @ 10:02am 
What if I don't have a kingdom to worry about recruiting lords, or my clan is big enough to cover the loss of friendly lords to recruit? I'm still not convinced that execution is a bad idea. There's no way they can produce enough children to replace them faster than I can mow them down.

If you roll into enemy territory with 150 or so of your own party, with the right perks and army composition, you can run down dozens of their little parties in very short order.
Claytonium Nov 28, 2022 @ 10:23am 
Originally posted by Figsak:
What if I don't have a kingdom to worry about recruiting lords, or my clan is big enough to cover the loss of friendly lords to recruit? I'm still not convinced that execution is a bad idea. There's no way they can produce enough children to replace them faster than I can mow them down.

If you roll into enemy territory with 150 or so of your own party, with the right perks and army composition, you can run down dozens of their little parties in very short order.

Kill everybody and let us know how it goes. I'm curious about the repercussions as well. I've been thinking about starting a new game and play as a mass-murdering crimelord, but it sounds like the game might become unplayable after a while if you go down that road.
LockeCasual Nov 28, 2022 @ 10:31am 
Well as an independent Bandit King without a kingdom you can get away with a lot. If wooing lords is not even necessary, then killing them won't really nerf your playstyle. I might start doing this on my bandit run, to express a "turn to evil" in this character b4 she dies and leaves the spoils to her spoiled Bandit childrens. I'll bet the children don't carry that bad karma from the lord murders, right? So I may declare a kingdom then, ruled by a child king.
Tohtori Leka Nov 28, 2022 @ 10:33am 
I'm kind of wondering what happens to a faction if you kill all the nobles they have while they still own fiefs. Will they just continue to exist as a lordless faction or will it get destroyed and what happens to the towns and castles if it does get destroyed?
Claytonium Nov 28, 2022 @ 10:43am 
Originally posted by Tohtori Leka:
I'm kind of wondering what happens to a faction if you kill all the nobles they have while they still own fiefs. Will they just continue to exist as a lordless faction or will it get destroyed and what happens to the towns and castles if it does get destroyed?
Probably a year ago, I started a run where I messed around with lots of cheats activated and did just that. I teleported around and killed every Aserai noble. Once I executed the last one, all their fiefs immediately became Vlandian. That was several versions ago, so I don't know if it'll still happen with the current version.
Wotannatow Nov 28, 2022 @ 10:45am 
If a clan owning fiefs is destroyed, those fiefs will be up for a vote in the kingdom's council.
Tohtori Leka Nov 28, 2022 @ 10:49am 
Originally posted by Claytonium:
Originally posted by Tohtori Leka:
I'm kind of wondering what happens to a faction if you kill all the nobles they have while they still own fiefs. Will they just continue to exist as a lordless faction or will it get destroyed and what happens to the towns and castles if it does get destroyed?
Probably a year ago, I started a run where I messed around with lots of cheats activated and did just that. I teleported around and killed every Aserai noble. Once I executed the last one, all their fiefs immediately became Vlandian. That was several versions ago, so I don't know if it'll still happen with the current version.
Were you Vlandian when you did that? Do the fiefs become owned by the faction that killed them or was it just randomly picked or something?
Claytonium Nov 28, 2022 @ 11:02am 
Originally posted by Tohtori Leka:
Were you Vlandian when you did that? Do the fiefs become owned by the faction that killed them or was it just randomly picked or something?

I think I had an independent kingdom for that playthrough. I definitely wasn't allied with Vlandia. I remember thinking it was random at the time.

Maybe if one of the Aserai nobles married a Vlandian woman, then Vlandia has a claim on the fiefs when the Aserai go extinct? I'm just guessing here, it's probably random.
Ruffio Nov 28, 2022 @ 12:24pm 
Originally posted by Tanya Degurechaff:
Originally posted by Ruffio:
the more you executer the harder it become to recruit lords to your kingdom. If you intend to paint the map with your kingdom you need to expand it with clans. If you don't you will run into security issues as bandit parties will start build up all over the place.
Patrols would fix this easily but reasons

Cheats is the solution on all problems, so I guess.
★F¡G§åK★ Nov 28, 2022 @ 7:27pm 
Originally posted by Claytonium:
Originally posted by Figsak:
What if I don't have a kingdom to worry about recruiting lords, or my clan is big enough to cover the loss of friendly lords to recruit? I'm still not convinced that execution is a bad idea. There's no way they can produce enough children to replace them faster than I can mow them down.

If you roll into enemy territory with 150 or so of your own party, with the right perks and army composition, you can run down dozens of their little parties in very short order.

Kill everybody and let us know how it goes. I'm curious about the repercussions as well. I've been thinking about starting a new game and play as a mass-murdering crimelord, but it sounds like the game might become unplayable after a while if you go down that road.

I definitely will. I plan on playing a "save the empire" game on the next go around, working with the southern empire. I plan on being full evil, executing absolutely everyone.
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Date Posted: Nov 27, 2022 @ 6:43pm
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