Death and birth option in mod list

[Leelareso]

Why is there an option in mods enable death and birthday when it can be enabled from character creation?

[Hammer]

So I kinda found this out the hard way: Unless you enable that mod before making your character, you can't turn off aging or birth later. I didn't play that campaign long enough to see if my main character actually died from age, but he definitely was getting older so I started a new campaign with that mod ticked on, so that I can have the option on character creation to not have birth and death, aging etc.

[Leelareso]

but if its off, this option is still in the game, so thats why i ask there is any diffrence enabling this in mod list, when you can enable it from game

[Hammer]

I didn't get the option to turn off aging without that mod enabled, I can just turn player and hero deaths off, which stops them from being executed. I never confirmed whether or not age doesn't kill your character, it's definitely killed other AI lords in my game, that much I know.

So I dunno, if you wanna chance it, continue playing without that module enabled and let us know if your character dies of old age, that way we'll know for sure.

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Originally posted by Vespidae Assassin:

I didn't get the option to turn off aging without that mod enabled, I can just turn player and hero deaths off, which stops them from being executed. I never confirmed whether or not age doesn't kill your character, it's definitely killed other AI lords in my game, that much I know.

So I dunno, if you wanna chance it, continue playing without that module enabled and let us know if your character dies of old age, that way we'll know for sure.

In the encyclopedia it says that your character can die at any time from the age of 40. Illness or simply old age.

[Darth Revan]

Originally posted by Vespidae Assassin:

I didn't get the option to turn off aging without that mod enabled, I can just turn player and hero deaths off, which stops them from being executed. I never confirmed whether or not age doesn't kill your character, it's definitely killed other AI lords in my game, that much I know.

So I dunno, if you wanna chance it, continue playing without that module enabled and let us know if your character dies of old age, that way we'll know for sure.

Originally posted by Leelareso:

Why is there an option in mods enable death and birthday when it can be enabled from character creation?

a few early access updates before the full release the devs made it so that the option to turn off the birth and death system only appears if you have this optional module enabled.

so if you create a new character without having this module enabled you can not turn the birth and death system off during character creation.

if you turn the birth and death system off there will be no deatsh of lords whatsoever, neither in battle nore of old age and there also will be no births whatsoever.

[Ganondalf]

So on a fresh bannerlord install, I assume this mod is turned off to prevent imbalance between birth and death over time? Is the mod only available for people who prefer the old way or something? Am I understanding correctly?

[Akameka]

could someone with longuer experience with Death enabled enlight me ?
How do the game handle the death of lords in the long run ? Do they get replaced after a while by new comer/decendants ? Are they enough to keep the game "alive" or are the armies cripling kinda permanent ?

Asking that because I've already seen quite a few charaters dies and get married, but not sure how that translate into late game.

[Action Man]

Originally posted by JerseyMilker:

So on a fresh bannerlord install, I assume this mod is turned off to prevent imbalance between birth and death over time? Is the mod only available for people who prefer the old way or something? Am I understanding correctly?

When you start a new game, there should be a check box for Birth and Death. I think the default is on, but I don't remember. Whatever you set, that's what the game is. It cannot be changed on that run.

Originally posted by Akameka:

could someone with longuer experience with Death enabled enlight me ?
How do the game handle the death of lords in the long run ? Do they get replaced after a while by new comer/decendants ? Are they enough to keep the game "alive" or are the armies cripling kinda permanent ?

Asking that because I've already seen quite a few charaters dies and get married, but not sure how that translate into late game.

In the late 40s, nobles will start dying of old age. It's all random, as some can live into their 80s and beyond. There are also nobles younger than 18 at the start of the game that will become 'active' once they hit 18. Also, married couples will produce children. They start at age 0. After 18 years of in game time, they will become active and participate in all the activities everyone else does.

For the player, you will get a pop up message that you are sick and will die soon. Your health will slowly drain. Use that time to get things set up for who you want your heir to be. Once your character dies, you select an heir - any adult in your clan (not sure on companions), and the game continues with you controlling the heir.

If a clan has no lords 18 or older, then clan is destroyed. Any children are 'lost' - basically dead. Any fiefs that clan held are given back to the faction leader. There are some clans that start out with few members, and they are aging - there's one in Battania and one in Aserai that can die out very early because of RNG.

Most couples have at least two kids, with many having more. Most likely you will have way more lords later in the game than you do at the start, although some small clans may have died out.

[Akameka]

Thanks for the insight Action man, I was afraid that late game would be empty. Right now I am in sandbox mode, around 2-3 years in with my 20s character and have no intention of conquering map right now. Just merking and leveling up my characters skills, and I was afraid I would be at loss in the long run. Glad to see I shoudln't.

Regarding inheritance, especially children, do they benefits from your stats ? And if I understand well, you should have one as soon as possible ( because 20+18 = 38 and you can die anytime after 40, so you're at risk not beeing able to play as him/her if you have them anytime later ?)

[Action Man]

Originally posted by Akameka:

Thanks for the insight Action man, I was afraid that late game would be empty. Right now I am in sandbox mode, around 2-3 years in with my 20s character and have no intention of conquering map right now. Just merking and leveling up my characters skills, and I was afraid I would be at loss in the long run. Glad to see I shoudln't.

Regarding inheritance, especially children, do they benefits from your stats ? And if I understand well, you should have one as soon as possible ( because 20+18 = 38 and you can die anytime after 40, so you're at risk not beeing able to play as him/her if you have them anytime later ?)

The earliest I think I've seen someone die of old age was 47. In one of my runs, it happened to my character at 48. That's why I say late 40s.

Even if you don't have a kid ready to go, pick another clan member to be your heir. When your kid is ready, retire the clan member you're controlling by taking the to the Retreat. You can select the new heir to be your kid.

If I remember correctly, your kid will join you at the level of their same sex parent, so you can freely assign all the focus and attribute points. The only skills they have will be those that developed via the choices you picked, so you will have to level the skills up yourself. They also usually start with some pretty decent equipment - similar to what a spouse starts with when you marry. Once they're old enough, put them to building the skills you want them to have.

[Urmel]

in sandbox you can start your mainchar with a age of 50

[Akameka]

Even if you don't have a kid ready to go, pick another clan member to be your heir. When your kid is ready, retire the clan member you're controlling by taking the to the Retreat. You can select the new heir to be your kid.

Oh yeah, I guess you can do that. Also, cheat death in medicine could probably save your ass once to keep living a little longuer. Don't know if you can cheese it by restating medecine and aquiring the perk again though ?

I am asking because I never tried that when I bought the game in beta ( the feature was quite buggy at the time as some players said) so I don't know how it works - and that kinda need a long commitment to a single playthough to achieve -

So basically, If my character is, let's say a woman at lvl45, when the child is born, if it's a girl she will be lvl45 at start but if a boy, he will be the husband's level ?
Does that means the child can earn even more level and stat/focus point than the parent because they start with higher level but lower skills ( so they can level them up again and earn more XP) ?

[Action Man]

I'm not sure if constantly respeccing Medicine will renew the cheat death, but I highly doubt that would be necessary. If you're playing with death on, just roll with the RNG. At some point, your character will die if you play long enough.

It's been a while since I played straight vanilla, but if your kid does start at your level, it will take them just as long as it would you to get to the next, so they probably won't level up any time soon. However, you can assign all their focus/attribute points, so they should be able to grow into the character you want them to be pretty quickly.

[ChocoGoddess1847]

thank you thank you THANK YOU! ive been looking for a way to turn off death and birth for sooo long! it ruined my game so many times