Mount & Blade II: Bannerlord

Mount & Blade II: Bannerlord

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Sir_Lex 22 nov. 2022 às 4:08
Being besieged continuously
Hi guys, i've started a war with the empire.
I have Ortysia as main city, and a castle near by.
Suddendly Aserai starts a war against me, and i'm constantly besieged from them. Is that normal? I mean, ok being besieged but it starts to be annoyg just to stay in the city and wait the other besiege (it's like the 10th in a row). I've even started to execute all the lords i capture trying to stop them :D
I don't have the possibility to gather food from other villages or to recruit proper troops.
Any advise on how to stop this frequently besiege? Thanks!
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Vertibird 22 nov. 2022 às 4:29 
If you are weak , every neighbouring wants to grab something from you. You should increase your power quickly. Build 4 parties , grab some castle nearby and persuade a clan to join you. I dont rebel until I am clan tier 4 and I have several parties and some fiefs to back me up. Even then they see me weak until I persuade some clans to join my kingdom.
Lord Daem 22 nov. 2022 às 4:34 
When you start a new Kingdom, other Kingdoms will continuously declare war - as Vertibird mentioned, its because you're seen as weak.

Before setting up a kingdom, have a tonne of money in reserves. Take on Companions with good skills and assign them to run their own parties - I always send Nathanos off as a party leader. Before setting up your own kingdom, give out all high level troops to the other parties and grind back up again.

Make sure you charm is high and you hire mercenaries to fight with/for you.

It'll be a grind, but running a Kingdom isn't meant to be easy. For a first full playthrough, I always suggest presenting the banner to another Ruler and seeing how it plays out. After that, you can try and setup your own Kingdom
Sir_Lex 22 nov. 2022 às 4:36 
Originalmente postado por Vertibird:
If you are weak , every neighbouring wants to grab something from you. You should increase your power quickly. Build 4 parties , grab some castle nearby and persuade a clan to join you. I dont rebel until I am clan tier 4 and I have several parties and some fiefs to back me up. Even then they see me weak until I persuade some clans to join my kingdom.

Building parties with my companions is ok? I have 3 parties from my companions, i'm going to make 5 if needed. I had 1 mercenary clan but now my relation towards them is -100 (i think because they are jawwal aserai), how do you persuade other clan to join you? everyone say nope to me.

Thank you for the advice btw!
Sir_Lex 22 nov. 2022 às 4:37 
Originalmente postado por Lord Daem:
When you start a new Kingdom, other Kingdoms will continuously declare war - as Vertibird mentioned, its because you're seen as weak.

Before setting up a kingdom, have a tonne of money in reserves. Take on Companions with good skills and assign them to run their own parties - I always send Nathanos off as a party leader. Before setting up your own kingdom, give out all high level troops to the other parties and grind back up again.

Make sure you charm is high and you hire mercenaries to fight with/for you.

It'll be a grind, but running a Kingdom isn't meant to be easy. For a first full playthrough, I always suggest presenting the banner to another Ruler and seeing how it plays out. After that, you can try and setup your own Kingdom

Thanks for the advice, seems to me that i meant to be destroyed :D
LockeCasual 22 nov. 2022 às 5:14 
Taking castles and rebelled cities as an indie bandit clan is really fun and refreshing. You don't gain "influence" but you're pretty much immune to being targeted for war, and, though it seems like a bug, the only time you go to war is when you want to, and the enemy will always accept a bribe to end it(without daily tribute).

It's not the ideal way to play, if you want a big empire. But if you're patient and have no interest in waging constant war, then a bandit/independent style gameplan is best.
Ruffio 22 nov. 2022 às 5:25 
Fief's that border to several factions is like war magnets, and if you are quite weak compared to the other factions it's a given wars will happen a lot.
LockeCasual 22 nov. 2022 às 5:28 
Originalmente postado por Ruffio:
Fief's that border to several factions is like war magnets, and if you are quite weak compared to the other factions it's a given wars will happen a lot.

Sure. This makes sense as an idea but in practice the Ai just seems to declare war at random. The game is only half as fun as it could be, unless you bend or break the rules entirely. I have no interest in waging war on all fronts, so I won't, but I'll still conquer the damn map
Ruffio 22 nov. 2022 às 5:32 
Originalmente postado por LockeCasual:
Originalmente postado por Ruffio:
Fief's that border to several factions is like war magnets, and if you are quite weak compared to the other factions it's a given wars will happen a lot.

Sure. This makes sense as an idea but in practice the Ai just seems to declare war at random. The game is only half as fun as it could be, unless you bend or break the rules entirely. I have no interest in waging war on all fronts, so I won't, but I'll still conquer the damn map

That is why you have things such as tribute and can pay off the ones you don't want to fight at the time and focus on those you do.
LockeCasual 22 nov. 2022 às 5:33 
Yeah like rent? no thanks
Panthaz89 22 nov. 2022 às 5:35 
They will run out of lords eventually after executing enough its either that or pay them tribute for throwing 5 million troops to their death tribute system definitely needs work so you don't have to pay a fortune even after slaughtering so many of them. Eventually they will have to pay you tribute for being weaker when they are down to 1 clan so they can hire 5+ mercs later on to wage war against you again...
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Vertibird 22 nov. 2022 às 6:36 
Btw in my current Khuzait game, something weird started to happen. In the west, vlandians and battanians started to execute each others lords. :steamlaughcry:
Rhapsody 22 nov. 2022 às 6:38 
Originalmente postado por Vertibird:
Btw in my current Khuzait game, something weird started to happen. In the west, vlandians and battanians started to execute each others lords. :steamlaughcry:

Sounds like chain reaction triggered by very low opinion/relationship between two or more clans. It's a rare occurrence overall, but once in action, the results can be... unpredictable.
Sir_Lex 22 nov. 2022 às 7:39 
Do you guys have any suggestion on how to recruit minor clans o major clans? seems like everyone don't like me or i have -100 relation with many of the clans
Vertibird 22 nov. 2022 às 8:36 
Originalmente postado por Sir_Lex:
Do you guys have any suggestion on how to recruit minor clans o major clans? seems like everyone don't like me or i have -100 relation with many of the clans
if you execute someone whole world starts to hate you. Other than that, sieging one's fief or raiding a village reduces your relation with that lord. Best way to improve relations is capturing and releasing them after battle. Or rescue them from dungeons.
SinisterSlay 22 nov. 2022 às 8:41 
I've played with this with cheats and mods.
Turns out if you have a huge garrison. Like 900. No one attacks you. Throw a ton of recruits into garrison and suddenly they never attack your castle.
So a good trick after finishing a siege is dump all your troops into the garrison, grab all the recruits and dump them too.
Grab the mercs from the tavern and run to each village and grab more recruits. Keep dumping them. This will even turn away parties that are traveling to lay siege.
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