how to make money as a kingdom?

[kaliku]

I have succesfully managed to declare my kindgom, and now own abou 1/3 of the map. I m juggling my armies back and forth, crushing and kingdom that declares war on me, making peace by the time the next one declares.
Still, although i give castles and towns to all my vassals (i have about 3/4 left), i m still in the negative with the balance with about 10k per month, no matter what i do.
Anything im missing?

[RJboxer]

I am a little surprised u "made a kingdom" and own about "1/3" of the map and didn't figure out economy.

not trolling, but isn't that kind of a big requirement (mastering economy) before you can take over 1/3 map efficiently?

I know I play conservatively, and like to be rich, to make things much easier when I do declare (or revolt).. but still.. I'd think at 1/3 map you'd have lots of ways to not be in negative consistently.

for me I like to max a town ASAP (i.e. walls, siege factory, all the economy things for prosperity). Get the right workshops in MY towns. Have decent garrisons... Smith. And send out caravans.

If I own 1 town and 8 castles (pretty garbage for income), I'd still be -12-15k per month in expenses, but MAKING 15-20k.. so a Positive INCOME (passive).

I'd say if you are running negative.. You need MORE workshops, with the correct matching (correct workshop for that town)... a few caravans (or 10.. whatever u can afford to send out). And then either fight a lot.. or smith.. or both.

Fighting is more fun, and makes money faster. But smithing is easier.

Up to you.. but IMHO at 1/3 I'd have expected u already to have a great economy going. If you don't have that yet.. get it up and running. then see how much easier it is to go to 50%

~cheers

[kristianjakob]

10k per month?

I think you should probably first of all just look at it calmly and see if it actually matter. If you have enough reserves then it isnt really going to matter.

[djo1313]

Make your garrisons smaller and fight more battles.

[flyingscot1066]

Is that -10k before or after battle loot?

[Redarmy]

Originally posted by kaliku:

I have succesfully managed to declare my kindgom, and now own abou 1/3 of the map. I m juggling my armies back and forth, crushing and kingdom that declares war on me, making peace by the time the next one declares.
Still, although i give castles and towns to all my vassals (i have about 3/4 left), i m still in the negative with the balance with about 10k per month, no matter what i do.
Anything im missing?

You install medieval 2 TW and actually develop your economy with meaningful choices.

[Maffin]

Reduce garrisons, AI auto upgrades to to the best units which will eat your denars. Best just get the Improved Garrison mod.

Fight Battles and sell the loot. If you need upgrade experience, keep the 1k+ items and sell them. I usually get around 40k to sometimes up to 200k depending on the items you get.

Upgrade towns. Once you have the important buildings go for prosperity.

Want easy mode? Go smithing and print money with two handed swords.

[Silhouette]

Do you have enough money that it isn't gonna be a problem for a while? Then your doing good enough I'd say. Or you dont have caravans and workshops going.

[Move2Bastyon]

If you despise the limitations in vanilla game as I do

consider these mods that give extra earnings and investment options

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2880158010

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2875187162

just beware they can become very powerful and therefore will require your own self control/restriction and perhaps some house rules so it doesn't feel so bad

For example increase the cost of estates to invest into significantly, so they are a tough thing to get into

reduce the earnings

Limit the total bank allowed

Limit how many estates you can have

things like that, which you might think is balanced and not abusing it to a point that it would ruin it for you

[kaliku]

Thx for all the answers.
I m pretty new at the game (my first playthrough directly in sandbox mode), and i guess the game just went that way. I was focused on being a vassal of a kingdom, then i kinda helped them win some castles which they gave to me, then i left them and kept them.
And there i was now, strength 20k new kingdom, and fighting left and right, mostly, not paying attention to eco a lot since i made more then 50k after each battle.
But the issue with the negative income is that i need to constantly fight/sell and i can t stay peaceful for a while:D

[1stbiker]

I think it is a bug, I went into the same issue !

My King has died from which I was a vassal, in a plain vanilla sandbox.
Because of my influence in the clan, I became the new King.

While I went down to another City and did some few things not worth to mention, I realized the daily income to sink from +2.5K to -8K. In the balance-summary I could detect the spending on the "Söldner" (probably mercenary soldier) has increased from -2.5K to -12.5K !

And this isnt the troups from me or fellows, it isnt the garrison troups but a separate thing which I can not even explain what it is. My game was dead even if I had enough money then.

So I loaded the savegame again and observed that number for a while - but this time it didnt go up from the -2.5K mentioned above .. no matter what I did - its still -2.5K and I can keep up playing this time ...

[Johnny_RO]

Hey there, I have a YouTube channel designated to Mount and Blade, I have a lot of tutorials that will probably help you, you will thank me later :)

https://youtu.be/OtN8b2HiMc0?si=vHS0q8RWeTojTEaP

[Werwolf]

Originally posted by KrantzO7:

Hey there, I have a YouTube channel designated to Mount and Blade, I have a lot of tutorials that will probably help you, you will thank me later :)

https://youtu.be/OtN8b2HiMc0?si=vHS0q8RWeTojTEaP

Noone will thank you. Go chase Kyle Rittenhouse with a skateboard.

[Roosterfish]

Don't spend more than you make.

Instant success.

[Lokaror]

Originally posted by KrantzO7:

Hey there, I have a YouTube channel designated to Mount and Blade, I have a lot of tutorials that will probably help you, you will thank me later :)

https://youtu.be/OtN8b2HiMc0?si=vHS0q8RWeTojTEaP

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