Everyone declares war on you

[DracoHoribilis]

As the title suggest, what are the mechanics and reasons for this? Im waging war against everyone and no matter If I beat them or not, they just keep coming, raiding, sieging... I have a large army but I cannot be everywhere all the time? I feel this is kind of game breaking, no time to do anything but defending aganst everyone non stop.

Anyone knows how to solve this problem?

[Rhapsody]

Could use a bit more information. Are you playing the campaign or sandbox, and if former, did the conspiracy start?

[DracoHoribilis]

Im playing Campaign, will that always end up like that?

Im not sure about any conspiracy yet, so far I just founded a kingdom, gathered an army because I had to defend myself, thought I get 1k men they will back off but no... they keep coming, I mean I fight everyone, two sieges, 3 raids ongoing, its insane, I had this last game too so I replayed thought I needed to be more "scary"

[[MM] Seppel]

just made my own kingdom with two cities and 3 castles but only my clan as armies, had aserai battania vlandia and western empire declare war on me immediately, 5 minutes later every settlement was besieged, rip

[Rhapsody]

Founding your own faction is not easy. Once you progress enough in the campaign quest, there will begin a conspiracy which will force several factions to war against you.

You can also join an existing realm and either declare yourself independent and steal the fiefs you were granted, or be elected to rule the existing faction when the original/current ruler dies.

[DracoHoribilis]

Originally posted by Seppels Gaming:

just made my own kingdom with two cities and 3 castles but only my clan as armies, had aserai battania vlandia and western empire declare war on me immediately, 5 minutes later every settlement was besieged, rip

:D This is what im saying, same here, both empires, sturgians and battanians attacked me. What did you do? replay, Im thinking starting a new and conquering the town at some edge to make it safer, being in the middle seems like troubble

[RJboxer]

1- In the campaign main quest, it is a Trigger, and always happens

2- On legit, it is EXTREMELY likely you are on cheat mode. The simple fact that you ask the question shows you are "newer".. and a newer person isn't NEAR experienced enough to take over most of the map without cheats. Don't worry we've all done it in the beginning too.

3- The issue is the AI will attack you if you are very weak. Or very strong (rightly so, on both accounts).

4- So if you are new kingdom, 1 town, 2 castles. You are gonna get attacked a lot (Unless they fixed it in official release, but it has been that way since day 1.. so I doubt it. I did NOT form my own kingdom in my only official campaign yet so can not confirm)

5- If you are experienced and have lets say 20 towns, and 35 castles (your kingdom of course, it is 1000000 billion percent impossible for the player to have that on legiit. Trust me). The AI lords see that kingdom (yours that u rule, or are a vassal in) as a huge threat. Not to mention many of those fiefs WERE theirs at one time or another.. so they want em back. This will cause them to declare on you. A LOT

6- 2-4 enemies in a war was common about 8 months ago. They toned it down a bit,, and 2-3 is common as u get stronger. Even still, when u get peace with "1 of them" another takes it place and declares war on you. You are PERPETUALLY in mutli front wars. Forever.

7- So, yep. AS YOU GET stronger the difficulty really ramps up. And Non-Noobs, Non-Cheaters know the challenge is to get enough lords to defend your territory AND still attack. And enough influence to get them moving in the right direction. The fighting, money, diplomacy etc.. is all super easy. it's the STRATEGY of conquering that requires work, since u need MANY MANY ai clans to do it.

8- Cheaters can just teleport and f4 all battles.. slowly accumulate 60 fiefs with their kingdom, then wonder how to defend against 5 enemies.. without STILL teleporting and STILL f4.



answer. Lots of Ally clans (at least 15.. 20-25 is probably more likely for most people...) And LOTS AND LOTS AND LOTS of influence to get them to "finish off that dude" in that area.. before ALSO fighting those other dudes all the way across the map. Or just as annoyingly "we fighting 3 guys... we have 30k power. enemies have 19k, 15k, 8k... One wants peace. Our guys vote NO, since they think it is still a close fight".

IT IS NOT CLOSE. you have 15 clans maybe.. that is 30 lords MAYBE. the enemy has 29 clans and 10 merc clans. That is 29x2 (roughly) and 10 x4 (roughly). NINETY EIGHT lords. many are captured.. but still they can make bigger armies, and also send out MORE scout parties to raid.

You must capture an area "west of map", or "north of map". completely before moving on.. and to do it on legit (no teleport).. requires You as king and LOTS of ally clans in your faction.

[DracoHoribilis]

Originally posted by RJboxer:

1- In the campaign main quest, it is a Trigger, and always happens

2- On legit, it is EXTREMELY likely you are on cheat mode. The simple fact that you ask the question shows you are "newer".. and a newer person isn't NEAR experienced enough to take over most of the map without cheats. Don't worry we've all done it in the beginning too.

3- The issue is the AI will attack you if you are very weak. Or very strong (rightly so, on both accounts).

4- So if you are new kingdom, 1 town, 2 castles. You are gonna get attacked a lot (Unless they fixed it in official release, but it has been that way since day 1.. so I doubt it. I did NOT form my own kingdom in my only official campaign yet so can not confirm)

5- If you are experienced and have lets say 20 towns, and 35 castles (your kingdom of course, it is 1000000 billion percent impossible for the player to have that on legiit. Trust me). The AI lords see that kingdom (yours that u rule, or are a vassal in) as a huge threat. Not to mention many of those fiefs WERE theirs at one time or another.. so they want em back. This will cause them to declare on you. A LOT

6- 2-4 enemies in a war was common about 8 months ago. They toned it down a bit,, and 2-3 is common as u get stronger. Even still, when u get peace with "1 of them" another takes it place and declares war on you. You are PERPETUALLY in mutli front wars. Forever.

7- So, yep. AS YOU GET stronger the difficulty really ramps up. And Non-Noobs, Non-Cheaters know the challenge is to get enough lords to defend your territory AND still attack. And enough influence to get them moving in the right direction. The fighting, money, diplomacy etc.. is all super easy. it's the STRATEGY of conquering that requires work, since u need MANY MANY ai clans to do it.

8- Cheaters can just teleport and f4 all battles.. slowly accumulate 60 fiefs with their kingdom, then wonder how to defend against 5 enemies.. without STILL teleporting and STILL f4.



answer. Lots of Ally clans (at least 15.. 20-25 is probably more likely for most people...) And LOTS AND LOTS AND LOTS of influence to get them to "finish off that dude" in that area.. before ALSO fighting those other dudes all the way across the map. Or just as annoyingly "we fighting 3 guys... we have 30k power. enemies have 19k, 15k, 8k... One wants peace. Our guys vote NO, since they think it is still a close fight".

IT IS NOT CLOSE. you have 15 clans maybe.. that is 30 lords MAYBE. the enemy has 29 clans and 10 merc clans. That is 29x2 (roughly) and 10 x4 (roughly). NINETY EIGHT lords. many are captured.. but still they can make bigger armies, and also send out MORE scout parties to raid.

You must capture an area "west of map", or "north of map". completely before moving on.. and to do it on legit (no teleport).. requires You as king and LOTS of ally clans in your faction.

Oh my, well... so it is unavoidable then?
Im not cheating so I guess I cant do anything about it, I will loose every game then?

You talking about lords and mercs, I founded my kingdoms, how to I make a lord/merc follow me then? I give them a settlement?

Im thinking I will replay from an earlier save and try get a settlement in a corner somewhere instead, but always having 3-4 wars ongoing is insane, how do I even win that? Also if I declare peace and pay tribute, it dosent say for how long, is it for ever until I declare war on them?

All i ever managed to obtain is 2 settlements, now I have 1 settlement and 1 castle but it is fruitless, I cant defend them both and I need to gather my guys into an army to even stand a chance to fight them.
I even captured the king of Brittania and tried to reason with him but I says senate decide peace, very annoying.

[Budoshi]

well i managed to take a town from some rebel, then one castle from the same rebel . i thought no one will be at war since you know its only rebels WRONG .
i used my 500 influence to give the castle to one of my follower to have one clan member, since its 500 and you need to own a fief in order to gain more generals ... i was basically stuck at one for a while.
All went well untill both empire factions declared war on me.. oh well im doomed right ? well not yet wait for it.. as i was fighting both factions i manage to repel one attacker besieging my town , Sibir to be exact , but then as i won that drained me completely, now the sturgia that has my daughter in marriage and with half the lords at 70 + and all friends and the leader at 100 friends decided to well declare war on me for the lolz , then meet my town with 1800 + troops vs my wounded 200 remaining.. rip. after my defeat..i also lost the castle at the same time btw to the empire , well after that
i put someone else in charge of my kingdom , then left it.. screw it.
now im trying to join one empire faction then when the game glitch and give me tons of Fief for no reasons well this time im gonna betray them and leave while keeping everything for myself , only way to make a kingdom in this game imo.

[I Throw Spears.]

I strongly suggest using the "Diplomacy" mod from the workshop.

[Budoshi]

Originally posted by I Throw Spears.:

I strongly suggest using the "Diplomacy" mod from the workshop.

thinking now about starting anew game and do exactly that.