Mounted companions assigned to infantry

[JESTER]

Can someone tell me how to make mounted companions be with cavalry and not infantry?
I know that I can put one as commander but I got more than just one mounted companion.

[Randomcarrot]

I'm having the same problem, I've tried experimenting with different equipment and weapons and I have tried respeccing their skills from the arena dude to every cavalry skill and none of it fixes it.
If Taleworlds sees this, just give us back the ability assign formations to companions, then you can play around with the auto detection all you want and the players can fix it when it gets it wrong ourselves.

[Multifaced]

+ to this, we need the ability to put units in our own self made companies again

how on earth did they come to the conclusion that this was better?

and if anything, let us move our army as a preset formation we setup during pre battle

you know like how total war had it for so long ago

[Butch]

Yeah, happens all the time. Seems like all companions that are not assigned as a captain just get dumped into the infantry formation regardless of their equipment. I want the custom formations back aswell. I never understood why they would remove this feature.

[EfBee]

Everyday I come on the forum I'm surprised.
Let me get this straight. Your companions have horses but do not battle with the cavalry? Do they stay with the infantry or what?

[Butch]

That's exactly what's happening, yes.

[Aven]

Developer response to another thread:

Originally posted by Duh:

We are looking into an update that will allow you to place heroes in your party / army into specific formations in the OOB (not as captains, but as members).

[EfBee]

Originally posted by Butch:

That's exactly what's happening, yes.

The mounted companions just stay with the infantry instead of charging with the cavalry... truly odd. Never seen that in ALL the Mount&Blades.

Has anyone who got that bug thought of ordering all cavalry to dismount and then mount again before engaging the enemy? I'd be curious to know what happens then.

[Karthago]

the problem has been known for so long and now after full publication do you want to act? Is a little shameful

[Butch]

Originally posted by fbelmedioni:

The mounted companions just stay with the infantry instead of charging with the cavalry... truly odd. Never seen that in ALL the Mount&Blades.

Has anyone who got that bug thought of ordering all cavalry to dismount and then mount again before engaging the enemy? I'd be curious to know what happens then.

Well, i'll try it later, but i highly doubt this will do anything. They get automatically placed in the infantry formation before the start of the battle, i can't imagine they would just change formations during the battle, whatever you tell them to do. For now, i just create new cavalry formations and assign all mounted companions as a captain. Then put the slider all the way to the left, so they'll be alone or with only like 1-3 other cav units in that formation and just give them the same orders as i give my main cav formation(s). Works for early on, but at some point, i need those formations for other troops. Then i just take away their horse, give them infantry gear and turn off clan hero death so they won't die in the mosh pit. There was a mod that fixed it in 1.8.0, but since 1.9.0, i have to deal with this crap.

Edit: Oh, i guess you ment before even starting the battle... i'll try that aswell.

[Grand Merchant]

Originally posted by Butch:

Yeah, happens all the time. Seems like all companions that are not assigned as a captain just get dumped into the infantry formation regardless of their equipment. I want the custom formations back aswell. I never understood why they would remove this feature.

Yup, I've been having the same issue. It started when I switched to the 1.9.0 beta, and now the full release. Even when in battle, selecting infantry shows that I have 2 cavalry mixed in with them.

A few weeks ago some of us posted about this in a technical support thread. At the time they said it was being forwarded to Q&A, so what happens next is anyone's guess.

[Panthaz89]

One of the biggest gripes I agree with...we had companions able to put in any formation we wanted before I don't mind that some basic units are getting mixed but at least let me control where my companions go so I don't have to play with clan death off so they don't suicide in every battle.

[Tourby]

This will be fix, for the momment you can create a 2nd cavalery group at the begining of the battle, assign a mounted compagnon as captain (not your brother) and in my case i could add my second mounted compagnon in this group.

[Rhapsody]

As Aven said, the devs are already planning to do something to give companions their very own formation or something.

However.

I don't really get the complaints about "suiciding" companions. If mounted unit such as companion, who should be not only well-equipped but also particularly skilled as time goes on, is stationed in infantry, how does it exactly affect their chances of survival? The only scenario I can think of is you order your infantry to charge at the beginning of battle.

I don't remember ever having this issue myself, but I often don't bring that many companions in my party in the first place. The situation can be avoided entirely by not using mounted companions. It's less than ideal solution, but should do for now. After all, the only kind of companion you really need to bring with you at all times is the surgeon. Another solution could be to do away with infantry in the first place and use cavalry and Fians only. :p

Since some people said they've had the issue for a long time, have you tried changing the companion's equipment to match that of your cavalry?

[Butch]

Originally posted by Rhapsody:

As Aven said, the devs are already planning to do something to give companions their very own formation or something.

About time. This bug already existed in multiple early access versions and is still not fixed. Apparently they're unable to even fix it, instead they plan to provide us with a workaround. Ridiculous. They should just bring back the custom formations and everyone would be happy. How hard can that be?

Originally posted by Rhapsody:

I don't really get the complaints about "suiciding" companions. If mounted unit such as companion, who should be not only well-equipped but also particularly skilled as time goes on, is stationed in infantry, how does it exactly affect their chances of survival? The only scenario I can think of is you order your infantry to charge at the beginning of battle.

In early/mid game they aren't equipped like tanks. They will be much safer with the cavalry. At least if you're not sending your cav to it's certain demise, like charging a sturgian shieldwall with spears sticking out everywhere. You don't have to charge your infantry at all, it's enough if your opponent does that. Your companions will be right in the middle of the meat grinder, because that's where they always get placed - right in the middle of the first infantry line. Even with half way decent equpment, they die in like 8 out of 10 battles. Proper battles, not against bandits.

Originally posted by Rhapsody:

I don't remember ever having this issue myself, but I often don't bring that many companions in my party in the first place. The situation can be avoided entirely by not using mounted companions. It's less than ideal solution, but should do for now. After all, the only kind of companion you really need to bring with you at all times is the surgeon. Another solution could be to do away with infantry in the first place and use cavalry and Fians only. :p

Well, your'e not wrong about the surgeon beeing the only must-have companion, at least early on, but a scout is nice to have aswell. If you get some propper captains, it will majorly improve the performance of your units. If you don't notice the diffrence, you're doing something wrong. Not using mounted companions doesn't change a thing. Like i wrote in an earlier post, every single companion that is not assigned as captain to a specific formation will get dumped in the infantry formation, no matter how they are equipped. to make matters worse, they will stand right in the middle of the first line all the time. I won't even comment on your proposal to only use cav and Fians ;D

Originally posted by Rhapsody:

Since some people said they've had the issue for a long time, have you tried changing the companion's equipment to match that of your cavalry?

Again, it doesn't matter how you equip them. Horse, no horse, bow, crossbow, even just giving them a bow and arrows, no meele weapon at all, they'll still get dumped in your infantry formation if they are not assigned as captain.

My god, look what you made me do. I wrote a freaking essay :D

[Butch]

Originally posted by Strachu :D:

This mod looks like something that could help us:
"Formation Sorter"
https://www.nexusmods.com/mountandblade2bannerlord/mods/3320?tab=files

Thanks, i'll check it out tomorrow.