Achievement Un(bloc)ker for Mods and stuff [MOD]

[Errayn]

so basicly taleworlds claimed this.
"Mods and cheats need to be disabled for achievements to work."
but bloc made a mod so you can gain achivements with mods.
you can download it here.
https://www.nexusmods.com/mountandblade2bannerlord/mods/4587

[Errayn]

Don't want your hard-earned achievements' to be locked because you are using mods? This mod can fix that. This is a 'mod' that blocks Bannerlord blocking you to get achievements because you use mods.

[Clovis Sangrail]

So in essence, it allows you to cheat your way to achievements, thereby cheapening the value of achievements for all those who actually earned them. Correct?

[Kashra Fall]

I mean, if you're gonna go that far, just use the steam tool someone made years ago to give you all achievements on anygame you want. Cheating is cheating, just do it how you like. Stroke your e-peen at achievements as well I guess? You don't hard earn anything by modifying the base game to your standards btw.

[Ruffio]

This is sad..... cheat to unlock achivements... I guess these people doesn't subscribe to the idea of winners and loosers. Everyone get a trophy for participate.... -)

[Errayn]

Originally posted by Kashra Fall:

I mean, if you're gonna go that far, just use the steam tool someone made years ago to give you all achievements on anygame you want. Cheating is cheating, just do it how you like. Stroke your e-peen at achievements as well I guess? You don't hard earn anything by modifying the base game to your standards btw.

it doest gives you full achivements. you have to play the game to gain them. Not just unlock all thing. Lots of players play the game with mods. And you cant gain achivements with mods this mod fixes that issue

[Errayn]

Also playing with mods is not mean cheating.

[o RawRaSauRus o]

Originally posted by Clovis Sangrail:

So in essence, it allows you to cheat your way to achievements, thereby cheapening the value of achievements for all those who actually earned them. Correct?

yes and no i have 1 mod that lets u chop off arms heads ect just more gore but i cant earn any achievements cuz of it being a mod is a real shame as there are some good mods that really add some good things i wouldn't say cheating or making it much easier to get the achievements but thats just from the mods i have used seen,

[Kashra Fall]

Originally posted by Errayn:

Originally posted by Kashra Fall:

I mean, if you're gonna go that far, just use the steam tool someone made years ago to give you all achievements on anygame you want. Cheating is cheating, just do it how you like. Stroke your e-peen at achievements as well I guess? You don't hard earn anything by modifying the base game to your standards btw.

it doest gives you full achivements. you have to play the game to gain them. Not just unlock all thing. Lots of players play the game with mods. And you cant gain achivements with mods this mod fixes that issue

Yes and the developers clearly do not want to reward people who mod it, why? Because mods go as far as to make you a god, make you do 9999 damage with every swing, make you nuke a map etc. They want you to earn it, which you don't do with mods. "I don't use." it doesn't matter, if it isn't base, it isn't achievement worthy to the development team.

So, if you're going to cheat, cheat the way you like, but trying to persuade people to do the same is kinda stupid.

[Errayn]

Originally posted by Kashra Fall:

Originally posted by Errayn:

it doest gives you full achivements. you have to play the game to gain them. Not just unlock all thing. Lots of players play the game with mods. And you cant gain achivements with mods this mod fixes that issue

Yes and the developers clearly do not want to reward people who mod it, why? Because mods go as far as to make you a god, make you do 9999 damage with every swing, make you nuke a map etc. They want you to earn it, which you don't do with mods. "I don't use." it doesn't matter, if it isn't base, it isn't achievement worthy to the development team.

So, if you're going to cheat, cheat the way you like, but trying to persuade people to do the same is kinda stupid.

"I don't use."

so what is your problem then you can leave the thread as it is. if someone wants to open all achivements they dont need to nuke the map or deal 9999 damage with every swing. They can just download a program to open all achivements.

To clarify that your nonsence argument again. In warband you can gain achivements with mods.

[Cosmic Cat]

Originally posted by Kashra Fall:

Originally posted by Errayn:

it doest gives you full achivements. you have to play the game to gain them. Not just unlock all thing. Lots of players play the game with mods. And you cant gain achivements with mods this mod fixes that issue

Yes and the developers clearly do not want to reward people who mod it, why? Because mods go as far as to make you a god, make you do 9999 damage with every swing, make you nuke a map etc. They want you to earn it, which you don't do with mods. "I don't use." it doesn't matter, if it isn't base, it isn't achievement worthy to the development team.

So, if you're going to cheat, cheat the way you like, but trying to persuade people to do the same is kinda stupid.

Ever heard of mods that make games harder? I can't speak for others but I try to make the base game more difficult whenever I come across a moddable game. I guess I'm "cheating" too then.

[Aven]

Originally posted by Starlet:

Ever heard of mods that make games harder? I can't speak for others but I try to make the base game more difficult whenever I come across a moddable game. I guess I'm "cheating" too then.

The developer's can't police what one mod does over another, so anything that modifies the base game is essentially cheating. Yes, you can even cheat in more difficulty, but it is still cheating. A game of chess played with a 5 second timer that shocks the player if they didn't make a move is obviously harder, but it won't ever be considered an official match by any standard.

[Cosmic Cat]

Originally posted by Aven:

Originally posted by Starlet:

Ever heard of mods that make games harder? I can't speak for others but I try to make the base game more difficult whenever I come across a moddable game. I guess I'm "cheating" too then.

The developer's can't police what one mod does over another, so anything that modifies the base game is essentially cheating. Yes, you can even cheat in more difficulty, but it is still cheating. A game of chess played with a 5 second timer that shocks the player if they didn't make a move is obviously harder, but it won't ever be considered an official match by any standard.

The textbook definition of cheating is "obtaining an unfair advantage". Modding a game to become more difficult doesn't constitute cheating.

What you're referring to is "purism", ie. playing a game the way the developers intended it, which is something different.

[D E C E M B E R]

Originally posted by Starlet:

Originally posted by Aven:

The developer's can't police what one mod does over another, so anything that modifies the base game is essentially cheating. Yes, you can even cheat in more difficulty, but it is still cheating. A game of chess played with a 5 second timer that shocks the player if they didn't make a move is obviously harder, but it won't ever be considered an official match by any standard.

The textbook definition of cheating is "obtaining an unfair advantage". Modding a game to become more difficult doesn't constitute cheating.

What you're referring to is "purism", ie. playing a game the way the developers intended it, which is something different.

So if I use the mod to use a cheat mod does that count?

[Dessolos]

Originally posted by Kashra Fall:

Originally posted by Errayn:

it doest gives you full achivements. you have to play the game to gain them. Not just unlock all thing. Lots of players play the game with mods. And you cant gain achivements with mods this mod fixes that issue

Yes and the developers clearly do not want to reward people who mod it, why? Because mods go as far as to make you a god, make you do 9999 damage with every swing, make you nuke a map etc. They want you to earn it, which you don't do with mods. "I don't use." it doesn't matter, if it isn't base, it isn't achievement worthy to the development team.

So, if you're going to cheat, cheat the way you like, but trying to persuade people to do the same is kinda stupid.

While i acknowledge there are some mods out there that is cheating cause they just make a weapon to op or something on those lines. But depending on your perspective very little amount of mods are actually cheats imo. Now im going to use this because i mainly use cosmetic mods. Like to have a custom banner, dismemberment , and fire arrows ( which dont do any extra damage just make a visual change.)

[Sel Und Irae]

Originally posted by Kashra Fall:

Originally posted by Errayn:

it doest gives you full achivements. you have to play the game to gain them. Not just unlock all thing. Lots of players play the game with mods. And you cant gain achivements with mods this mod fixes that issue

Yes and the developers clearly do not want to reward people who mod it, why? Because mods go as far as to make you a god, make you do 9999 damage with every swing, make you nuke a map etc. They want you to earn it, which you don't do with mods. "I don't use." it doesn't matter, if it isn't base, it isn't achievement worthy to the development team.

So, if you're going to cheat, cheat the way you like, but trying to persuade people to do the same is kinda stupid.

What if the mod makes the game harder than base game though? Perma death, Personal Hunger Meter, Can die in battle, A.I Improvements + (No more endless run back and forth) , A.I Execute.
Those mods should get a pass cause if you goof once 50/50 your run is over.