Party speed buff/debuffs

[Shifty]

Okay i just dont understand the ♥♥♥♥!ng speed/capacity system.... i have 12 cavalry units, 71 footmen and 21 archers. I have 109 mounts meant to increase speed which covers the footmen,archers and companions in my party. Cargo is 2171/10110. Why am i still getting a "Cargo within Capacity" Debuff......shouldn't that be a positive that my cargo is within capacity...... Can't catch a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ caravan to save my life now im stuck at 5.6 speed most of the time.....I am clearly missing something lol. I do not have a herd debuff either

[kristianjakob]

Originally posted by Shifty:

Okay i just dont understand the ♥♥♥♥!ng speed/capacity system.... i have 12 cavalry units, 71 footmen and 21 archers. I have 109 mounts meant to increase speed which covers the footmen,archers and companions in my party. Cargo is 2171/10110. Why am i still getting a "Cargo within Capacity" Debuff......shouldn't that be a positive that my cargo is within capacity...... Can't catch a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ caravan to save my life now im stuck at 5.6 speed most of the time.....I am clearly missing something lol. I do not have a herd debuff either

You basically always have a "cargo within capacity" debuff. But given the numbers you post it should just be very very small, so, how large is it actually?

[Shifty]

Originally posted by kristianjakob:

Originally posted by Shifty:

Okay i just dont understand the ♥♥♥♥!ng speed/capacity system.... i have 12 cavalry units, 71 footmen and 21 archers. I have 109 mounts meant to increase speed which covers the footmen,archers and companions in my party. Cargo is 2171/10110. Why am i still getting a "Cargo within Capacity" Debuff......shouldn't that be a positive that my cargo is within capacity...... Can't catch a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ caravan to save my life now im stuck at 5.6 speed most of the time.....I am clearly missing something lol. I do not have a herd debuff either

You basically always have a "cargo within capacity" debuff. But given the numbers you post it should just be very very small, so, how large is it actually?

oh its a small debuff like-.03 but how do i go above 5.6? Do i just buy way more horses that increase my speed than i have footmen? But wouldn't that give me the herd debuff? Or do i simply need a larger army....im already over 100....

[Clovis Sangrail]

What's your herd penalty? Do you have other animals besides horses.

Sheep, pigs and cows count against herd penalty, as do all horses and mules.

[kristianjakob]

Originally posted by Shifty:

Originally posted by kristianjakob:

You basically always have a "cargo within capacity" debuff. But given the numbers you post it should just be very very small, so, how large is it actually?

oh its a small debuff like-.03 but how do i go above 5.6? Do i just buy way more horses that increase my speed than i have footmen? But wouldn't that give me the herd debuff? Or do i simply need a larger army....im already over 100....

Given that you have primarily infantry and given the size of your army that is probably more or less the top speed you can expect. No, not a larger army, the larger the army the slower you will travel.

If you want to become fast enough to capture caravans you can either

1) downscale the size of your party
2) replace infantry with more cavalry
3) exploit the perk in scouting that reduce your movement speed penalty in forests. Basically, angle your approach to the caravan so that it will run into a forest.
4) Use chokepoints where you can trap them.

[Shifty]

Originally posted by kristianjakob:

Originally posted by Shifty:

oh its a small debuff like-.03 but how do i go above 5.6? Do i just buy way more horses that increase my speed than i have footmen? But wouldn't that give me the herd debuff? Or do i simply need a larger army....im already over 100....

Given that you have primarily infantry and given the size of your army that is probably more or less the top speed you can expect. No, not a larger army, the larger the army the slower you will travel.

If you want to become fast enough to capture caravans you can either

1) downscale the size of your party
2) replace infantry with more cavalry
3) exploit the perk in scouting that reduce your movement speed penalty in forests. Basically, angle your approach to the caravan so that it will run into a forest.
4) Use chokepoints where you can trap them.

Makes sense ill try fewer infantry and a few more cav

[Clovis Sangrail]

I like to recruit a bunch of cavalry and hire myself out as a mercenary. Then I go raid their enemies' caravans. With an all cavalry force, you can easily make 6.0 in clear terrain and catch caravans. Fast enough to catch caravans and also outrun anything that wants to hurt me.