Will there be same-sex marriages?

[you just run them over]

As for a proud member of the LGBTQQIAAP community, this is crucial to me. I hope, even for the citizens of a developing country, TaleWorlds made a right decision in account to such problematic topic.

[svamp]

I mean, homosexuality has always been with mankind ever since our beginning. But not gay marriage. If they perhaps have some ♥♥♥♥♥♥ in game, but avoid gay marriage, and you can execute the ♥♥♥♥♥♥. Then sure.

[stevebullpasture]

I demand a gender option mini game! They must have this or I will protest! It's a violation of my rights to not be able to choose if I want to be a women and then change over to a man in my save game.

[SomberFlight]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRUXu7dK5Ic

[Lawaern]

Bannerlord is based during the fall of the calradian empire. The calradian empire is based on the roman empire. At that stage in the roman empire, Constantine had converted to Christianity.

So if there was same sex marriage, it would no longer be M&B, it would be a step in a completly different direction.

Also, if you think that's unfair, this is a game about WAR, it has huge amounts of violence and involves the player recruiting innocent, naive civilians, arming them and sending them to their deaths. So what the hell are you thinking.

[Daisy Gowan Ditchburn]

Originally posted by gusman98:

Bannerlord is based during the fall of the calradian empire. The calradian empire is based on the roman empire. At that stage in the roman empire, Constantine had converted to Christianity.

So if there was same sex marriage, it would no longer be M&B, it would be a step in a completly different direction.

Also, if you think that's unfair, this is a game about WAR, it has huge amounts of violence and involves the player recruiting innocent, naive civilians, arming them and sending them to their deaths. So what the hell are you thinking.

What and are you saying homosexuality and violence don't go together? Have you even heard of the Theban Sacred Band? I mean they were supposedly the best warriors in all of Greece (the Spartans are just overated and beloved by hipsters really)

[⎛⎝ Kupo ⎠⎞]

Originally posted by Skaylor:

This game is also targeted to a specefic audience that does not want gay romance in the gameplay, hell I'm against romance in general unless it's really made well and affects your positions and adds certain mechanics. But gay romance does not lead anywhere in this world, you don't get married, your position doesn't change (if not degraded) and you won't have children. So give me a good reason why the devs should invest hours into this pointless feature.

What are you talking about?
How is it '' targeting people who don't want gay romances in the gameplay ''?
The only reason that is needed is that there quite clearly are people who DO want it. Whether it will happen or not is up to the devs.
I just find this whole '' muh immersion and realism '' thing absurd. People seem to just WAY overrate the so called '' realism '' in the game and act as if it's somehow historically accurate ( when it isn't ). It's still a work of fiction and a fictional world.
And it's based on the real world, but so what?
I just don't see the argument as to why this is some kind of a problem but not any other change that they make which isn't '' historically accurate '' in terms of the stereotypical medieval society.

The fact that people are talking about '' realism '' just makes me want to bash my head against the wall. It has nothing to do with '' realism ''. It has to do with historical accuracy, and whether it breaks immersion or not is a deliberate choice that you make for yourself. It doesn't really break your immersion unless you want it to.
Not to mention the fact that nobody is going to force you to partake in it......... If you don't want to, then simply don't do it.

And actually. I sorta do like the idea of it actually having a mechanical effect on the game itself. It would actually be pretty cool if the different cultures had different views on it, and if it actually did have an effect on your character and the gamplay.

In the end of the day. I think that some people need to get their heads out of their own ass. People asking nicely and being in favor of additions to the game isn't the same thing as a demand.
Look at the reactions from a lot of people here. A lot of people are basically acting like triggered cry babies themselves because someone dared to make a suggestion and used a '' naughty word '' ( problematic ).

[⎛⎝ Kupo ⎠⎞]

Originally posted by Brunio:

Originally posted by ⎛⎝ Kolsy ⎠⎞:

While he is a troll. I still find a lot of the reactions to be quite baffling.
Does it really matter? What exaclty is the issue here?
If people want same-sex marriage in the game and it makes them happy, then what's the problem with it?
It's not as if the game is free from historical inaccuracies and unrealistic content already...
Why is the line being drawn with gay marriage? The game is still full of fiction, it's not really all that historically accurate all things considered.

People keep talking about realism. But what realism exactly?
The game isn't really all that realistic.
I really hate that word when it comes to games tho. Because people are so damn picky and choosy with how they apply the word. Same thing with '' immersion ''. It's just too damn subjective.
I just find it to be rather questionable that something like gay marriage in Mount and Blade would break your '' immerson '' or make the game less '' realistic '' but not all of the other stuff.
The complete lack of formations and randomness just in general alone breaks the '' immerson '' a billion times more than same sex marriage would imo.

Realism is keeping things as accurate as possible in most cases. If you read the forums on taleworlds/watch videos they mention multiple times they are trying to keep it realistic and historically accurate for the time period. This mostly applies to the armors available/how people talk and act/weapons. They want the game to feel like you are in the time period back then.

I don't think gay marriage would break immersion, but yes, it would stand out due to the times. After all the people getting married in the game are nobles/lords. I have never read an instance about a noble marrying someone of the same sex in that time period. Lineage and wealth were the foundation of marriage.

But I think its mostly just that Homosexuals are not a large percentage of the population. Why go out of their way to put it into a game when there are probably more people that would rather not see it?

Except that gay people are a large part of the population if you include bisexuality.
Bisexuality amongst men is WAY more common place than I think most people believe it to be.
It's just stigmatized a lot more than it is for women.
I don't really agree that realism is '' keepin things accurate to the time period ''. That's just historical accuracy. There's nothing unrealistic about homosexuality being socially acceptable for a time period like that. Especially not considering how dependent these things are on things like religion.
The game already takes liberties, I just find it ridicilous that people are somehow acting as if this is taking it one step too far.
I really don't see the problem, since it's not as if it's going to be forced on anyone.
Nobody will force you to play a gay character.

I don't really care too much about it in the end of the day.
I think that it should simply be up to the devs to decide.
My issue is more the reactions and people acting as if there was some kind of demand or whatever, lol.
I just don't agree at all that it somehow breaks immersion and makes it less '' realistic ''. You can feel free to disagree with it, that's your right. I am simply expressing my opinion too. ( I know that you said that you didn't think it broke the immersion, but I am just speaking in general from the reactions of people here ).

Neither of us actually know what most people want tho. We can only speculate. And I quite frankly don't think that most people actually care either way.

I just don't see the issue with the option for it for people who do want it. And
I actually think that it would be cool to introduce some negatives with it too. That perhaps some cultures are a lot more aggressive towards it than others. I actually that this would add a lot to the game and add another difficulty level to it.
There's plenty of oppurtinities there in that aspect too.
If there actually were oppressive cultures against homosexuals, i'd definetly consider playing a gay character because I think that it would make for a more interesting story and game.

[Rogat]

I see the issue because it's a pointless feature that will bring you nowhere, and will cost the devs time which will further delay the game.

[⎛⎝ Kupo ⎠⎞]

Originally posted by Skaylor:

I see the issue because it's a pointless feature that will bring you nowhere, and will cost the devs time which will further delay the game.

Pointless, to you.

[Romulus Palaiologos]

they should add it, but where you get arrested and beheaded if you actually get caught, with a nice cinematic and everything. Maybe offer some quests for players to "investigate" alleged homosexual behavior of rival nobles and if they were true, report it to the King so he could arrest and execute them.

[Sovietkotek]

^

[X-542]

The whole world shouldn't have to continuously scrape and bend to your abnormal sexuality. Besides M&B isn't some high-fantasy Bioware ripoff, so just give it a rest already.

[Sovietkotek]

Ugh, bioware. The hipster ♥♥♥♥ hair was bad enough.

[Mr. Pig]

Originally posted by Sir Ippo:

Don't think this needs to be added.And doesn't fit the timeline.

Just because it dosent fit the timeline dosent mean there werent any same sexual traction, if this game is about personal choices then why the ♥♥♥♥ not through in same sex marriages and face the consequences.

[Swwatter]

Homosexuality was not a huge offense on the Holy Roman Empire days, however, in the 11th century it was less acceptable and punishable by death. Now, same-sex relationships 'could' technically be made in the 11th century, however, marriages were never, ever considered a thing until a half millenia later (modern-times). Same sex marriage, according to the law of all religions in the 11th century was an abomination and harshly frowned upon. It wouldn't fit into the game. Same-sex relationships, however, I could understand that.