vlandia troops nerfed to uselessness?

[Jaeger]

been doing some tests in custom battles and the volgiers and sargeants cant stand up to hardly any other equal ranked troop

[Rhapsody]

Vlandians never had that great infantry to begin with, but the other factions have indeed had their troops buffed over the various updates.

You shouldn't use custom battles to measure capabilities of troops and parties though. It is a very different situation in campaign where you build your hero, companions and party composition to meet and conquer the enemies you are facing.

[Jaeger]

i think i noticed a bug with the volgeirs they arent attacing when defending on a wall when on ai command.

was gong to play a vlandian campaign but now im not so sure.

Lol this game is so imba
battanian fins beat legionaires in melee 10 to 1

[Ju87gstukas]

Vlandian infantry is useless from the beginning.

[Hexagoros]

Originally posted by Ju87gstukas:

Vlandian infantry is useless from the beginning.

Which is a huge issue when combined with the Lance Cavalry Bug.

[Jaeger]

guess they're releasing it because they give up on fixing the issues lol

[⛩️ BOT Mushin ⛩]

Originally posted by Jæger:

guess they're releasing it because they give up on fixing the issues lol

That's because of all the cry babies complaining about "early access" so now they have the "community" backing up the release of an unfinished product.

[RJboxer]

All those "lemme put this troop against that troop in an artificial setting" are useless.

ALL OF THEM.

There are so many variables in battles. u cant create it in a "skirmish mode". You have to factor in cavalry to move faster on the world map.. infantry to counter THOSE cavalry on world map.. etc..

Not to mention people love to give their "dis troop da best. I wil proves it" troops BEST scenario in their "tests".

Like "ok.. imma give me 300 fian champs and park us on this hill". etc.

That doesn't happen in real battles. and IF IT DOES. that is ONE battle. and the other 50.. you DO NOT get to park you 300 fians (that walk super super slow.. and couldnt catch anyone on the world map... ever) on a hill. and be happy enemy has NO cavalry... or Sturgians with shields etc...


Ok.. That being said.

Good news. Regardless of your "tests" Vlandia is Still the strongest faction in the game by far.

BY FAR.

so I'd "hope" that their troops are considerably weaker.. (but sadly they aren't). Their troops are average. but everything else they have going for them, makes them the strongest faction in the game.. And they have been since the Khuzait nerf over a year ago.

[Humble]

Vlandians should be strongest due storyline. timeline in this game they will become empire but fall (spilt faction Swadia/Rhodoks, no more Vlandians) again in future just before old mount and blade timeline, more or less.

[Polohaha]

Originally posted by Humble:

Vlandians should be strongest due storyline. timeline in this game they will become empire but fall (spilt faction Swadia/Rhodoks, no more Vlandians) again in future just before old mount and blade timeline, more or less.

they are suppose to be the strongest factions among those Khanate clan

also the game is not ready for "full Release"........ not even close.. game still crash alot and server for MP is crash on map change

[Fuzzyballs01 ꦙ]

Originally posted by Humble:

Vlandians should be strongest due storyline. timeline in this game they will become empire but fall (spilt faction Swadia/Rhodoks, no more Vlandians) again in future just before old mount and blade timeline, more or less.

that's stupid reasoning

[kristianjakob]

Originally posted by RJboxer:

Like "ok.. imma give me 300 fian champs and park us on this hill". etc.

That doesn't happen in real battles. and IF IT DOES. that is ONE battle. and the other 50.. you DO NOT get to park you 300 fians (that walk super super slow.. and couldnt catch anyone on the world map... ever) on a hill. and be happy enemy has NO cavalry... or Sturgians with shields etc...

LOL, it not only happens but is basically how every single battle you ever fight with a fian army plays out.

Cavalry or shields..tsk..as if that matters.

[Humble]

Originally posted by Fuzzyballs01:

Originally posted by Humble:

Vlandians should be strongest due storyline. timeline in this game they will become empire but fall (spilt faction Swadia/Rhodoks, no more Vlandians) again in future just before old mount and blade timeline, more or less.

that's stupid reasoning

It's story lore, I didn't make story. Talesworld did.

[Rhapsody]

Originally posted by Humble:

Vlandians should be strongest due storyline. timeline in this game they will become empire but fall (spilt faction Swadia/Rhodoks, no more Vlandians) again in future just before old mount and blade timeline, more or less.

The empire already exists but it's fallen apart. Vlandia is not an empire and never will be. It's barely a kingdom even in time frame of Bannerlord... just a bunch of mercs playing nobility really. ;)

Anyway, what Vlandia is good at is cavalry and crossbows. Their foot infantry is not as weak as Khuzait, but their cavalry is almost as good, except that they have heavy cavalry only instead of horse archers. Their regular troop branch is much better from 1.8 onward, and allows them to field masses of cheaper cavalry. So you can actually execute something like two-pronged cavalry flanking attacks while the enemy frontline is being thinned down by crossbows. And just like Khuzait, they are not particularly good at siege battles. Fortunately their territory is relatively easy to defend as well, there are relatively few fiefs which can be counted as true border locations.

If you play for Vlandia, you'll probably want to hire some Battanian Oathsworn and Fians and Aserai Faris or Mamelukes to compliment their own forces as you begin expanding.

If you are fighting against Vlandians, I'd really recommend seizing any opportunity to dismantle and loot their parties and armies. They are fielding so much cavalry in 1.8 onward, you should gain silly amounts of Saddle Horses to use for your own mounted forces or just sell for good money.

[Beyond.Celsus]

I've got Vlandian troops exclusively and have had no issues beating the A.I even when outnumbered

[Jaeger]

lol someone wants to pretend soldiers competency in battle doesnt matter. you cant always rely on fancy tactics you ultimately rely on your soldiers ability to fight when you get caught in a situation where there isnt much freedom to decide on tactics. war is never ideal and its hell. you want your foot soldiers to be able to beat the other guys soldiers in a 1v1 or at least be able to closely match but vlandia been slipping and their tier 5 foot soldiers cant even hold their own against most other tier5s not even close.

i play the campaign with all fian army in my current campaign (roleplaying robinhood/braveheart celtic bros and trust me... u dont just have to park on a hill they beat anyone in any terrain lol.

only way i get challenged is with lots of cavalry + archers against us. cavalry to disrupt while archers fire.

vlandians soldiers are weak. i just was wondering if there was a reason because I see in the past volgiers were pretty good before the last couple patches.