1.7 Battle terrain system not great

[JEXA]

So i opted into the beta and half way through a play through, ive tried to force engagements in specific places such as on bridges or narrow valleys but they rarely seem to contain those features. Am i doing something wrong are you guys having more luck ?

[Darth Revan]

the maps for that system are handmade and not all maps are in the game yet.

the system splits the map into about 148 parts and we only have 72 battle sceenes so far.

[JEXA]

yeah its a lot of work for sure cant wait for it to be complete

[[GREY]Hunor]

And even if I start a battle on the bridge, he just won't give me a bridge battlefield!

[Darth Revan]

Originally posted by GREYHunor:

And even if I start a battle on the bridge, he just won't give me a bridge battlefield!

probably because that area of the map is not in the game yet.

[Machiavelli]

yea they got to make entire new maps for each section of the world and they only done like 40 of them or sumthin?

[Darth Revan]

Originally posted by Locklave:

a lot of the new maps are just the same maps on a different alignment with different terrain deco.

I feel this is a lot of half assing.

well, the maps are meant to look like the region they represent on the world map so if its the same plain field just with a few trees or other stuff like a rock or something than it kind of should look that way on the battle map as well.

though we will see how it really will be once all the required maps are implemented.

[Someguyinhere]

Originally posted by Locklave:

a lot of the new maps are just the same maps on a different alignment with different terrain deco.

I feel this is a lot of half assing.

By all means. Show them how it's done.

[Zorelnam]

Originally posted by Locklave:

a lot of the new maps are just the same maps on a different alignment with different terrain deco.

I feel this is a lot of half assing.

i agree, this is pretty much a complete waste of time, they should fix all the basic problems with the game first, for example the combat still feels bad, warband had much better combat they also need to fix the economy and the hyper inflation in calradian commodities including currency
There are plenty more features that are still missing amongst which was the supposed criminal empire thing, it seems very strange that instead of finishing what they promised first they went off in this extremely time consuming tangent for little to no apparent gain other than to see a somewhat similar map in battle, which quite frankly i am not convinced is even worth the time, Warband had none of this battle terrain system and yet was still a better game

[Someguyinhere]

Originally posted by Zorelnam:

Originally posted by Locklave:

a lot of the new maps are just the same maps on a different alignment with different terrain deco.

I feel this is a lot of half assing.

i agree, this is pretty much a complete waste of time, they should fix all the basic problems with the game first, for example the combat still feels bad, warband had much better combat they also need to fix the economy and the hyper inflation in calradian commodities including currency
There are plenty more features that are still missing amongst which was the supposed criminal empire thing, it seems very strange that instead of finishing what they promised first they went off in this extremely time consuming tangent for little to no apparent gain other than to see a somewhat similar map in battle, which quite frankly i am not convinced is even worth the time, Warband had none of this battle terrain system and yet was still a better game

Then play Warband. In fact, play vanilla Warband. No mods allowed at all. I'll be waiting for your report on how much better unmodded Warband is.

[Zorelnam]

Originally posted by Someguyinhere:

Originally posted by Zorelnam:

i agree, this is pretty much a complete waste of time, they should fix all the basic problems with the game first, for example the combat still feels bad, warband had much better combat they also need to fix the economy and the hyper inflation in calradian commodities including currency
There are plenty more features that are still missing amongst which was the supposed criminal empire thing, it seems very strange that instead of finishing what they promised first they went off in this extremely time consuming tangent for little to no apparent gain other than to see a somewhat similar map in battle, which quite frankly i am not convinced is even worth the time, Warband had none of this battle terrain system and yet was still a better game

Then play Warband. In fact, play vanilla Warband. No mods allowed at all. I'll be waiting for your report on how much better unmodded Warband is.

good job deflecting the main argument i am presenting

[Darth Revan]

Originally posted by Zorelnam:

Originally posted by Locklave:

a lot of the new maps are just the same maps on a different alignment with different terrain deco.

I feel this is a lot of half assing.

i agree, this is pretty much a complete waste of time, they should fix all the basic problems with the game first, for example the combat still feels bad, warband had much better combat they also need to fix the economy and the hyper inflation in calradian commodities including currency
There are plenty more features that are still missing amongst which was the supposed criminal empire thing, it seems very strange that instead of finishing what they promised first they went off in this extremely time consuming tangent for little to no apparent gain other than to see a somewhat similar map in battle, which quite frankly i am not convinced is even worth the time, Warband had none of this battle terrain system and yet was still a better game

well, after the system is implemented this will no longer effect development time for any of the things you mentioned, map/level desingers are not working on a criminal empre system or the combat or anything else that involves coding features/systems so them making the missing maps which is the largest part of the work that has to be done for that system wont effect any of those things.

also combat being better in warband is a very subjective thing, i personally prefere bannerlrods combat but thats just me.

[Willow Ufgood]

Originally posted by Zorelnam:

Originally posted by Locklave:

a lot of the new maps are just the same maps on a different alignment with different terrain deco.

I feel this is a lot of half assing.

i agree, this is pretty much a complete waste of time, they should fix all the basic problems with the game first, for example the combat still feels bad, warband had much better combat they also need to fix the economy and the hyper inflation in calradian commodities including currency
There are plenty more features that are still missing amongst which was the supposed criminal empire thing, it seems very strange that instead of finishing what they promised first they went off in this extremely time consuming tangent for little to no apparent gain other than to see a somewhat similar map in battle, which quite frankly i am not convinced is even worth the time, Warband had none of this battle terrain system and yet was still a better game

lol stop clinging to old bannerlord it got remade the gamecom bannerlord we saw back in like 2015 is gone it's been rebuilt so criminal empire might not be in the new plans and do you honestly thin vanilla warband combat was better?

[Voncrow]

Originally posted by Willow:

Originally posted by Zorelnam:

i agree, this is pretty much a complete waste of time, they should fix all the basic problems with the game first, for example the combat still feels bad, warband had much better combat they also need to fix the economy and the hyper inflation in calradian commodities including currency
There are plenty more features that are still missing amongst which was the supposed criminal empire thing, it seems very strange that instead of finishing what they promised first they went off in this extremely time consuming tangent for little to no apparent gain other than to see a somewhat similar map in battle, which quite frankly i am not convinced is even worth the time, Warband had none of this battle terrain system and yet was still a better game

lol stop clinging to old bannerlord it got remade the gamecom bannerlord we saw back in like 2015 is gone it's been rebuilt so criminal empire might not be in the new plans and do you honestly thin vanilla warband combat was better?

Vanilla Warband combat was more fluid and consistent. I was never a huge fan of the wonk physics so I'm mostly fine with Bannerlords combat, but chambering barely works, spears barely work, and the combo mechanic makes feinting obnoxiously difficult. Then add on the fact that the only combat speed they give you is the equivalent of Warbands slowest combat speed, and then I understand why people complain. And that's just to start with some of Bannerlord's issues. Warband combat wasn't perfect but neither is Bannerlords. Both have their ups and downs.

[Willow Ufgood]

Originally posted by Donna White:

Originally posted by Willow:

lol stop clinging to old bannerlord it got remade the gamecom bannerlord we saw back in like 2015 is gone it's been rebuilt so criminal empire might not be in the new plans and do you honestly thin vanilla warband combat was better?

Vanilla Warband combat was more fluid and consistent. I was never a huge fan of the wonk physics so I'm mostly fine with Bannerlords combat, but chambering barely works, spears barely work, and the combo mechanic makes feinting obnoxiously difficult. Then add on the fact that the only combat speed they give you is the equivalent of Warbands slowest combat speed, and then I understand why people complain. And that's just to start with some of Bannerlord's issues. Warband combat wasn't perfect but neither is Bannerlords. Both have their ups and downs.

I agree

[Ruffio]

Originally posted by Donna White:

Originally posted by Willow:

lol stop clinging to old bannerlord it got remade the gamecom bannerlord we saw back in like 2015 is gone it's been rebuilt so criminal empire might not be in the new plans and do you honestly thin vanilla warband combat was better?

Vanilla Warband combat was more fluid and consistent. I was never a huge fan of the wonk physics so I'm mostly fine with Bannerlords combat, but chambering barely works, spears barely work, and the combo mechanic makes feinting obnoxiously difficult. Then add on the fact that the only combat speed they give you is the equivalent of Warbands slowest combat speed, and then I understand why people complain. And that's just to start with some of Bannerlord's issues. Warband combat wasn't perfect but neither is Bannerlords. Both have their ups and downs.

Your combat speed deppends on several factors. Skills and weight of armor...