Current State

[Firathmagi]

does it feel more or less like a complete game with issues or a beta

[gruber12]

well iam at the point where its uninstalled till the modders get the skeleton tool and pump out the overhauls

[★RULER★]

Originally posted by Firathmagi:

does it feel more or less like a complete game with issues or a beta

-no feasts or events.
-no claimants/usurpers
-no cutscenes
-randomly generated companions < jeremus
-no promised gang/brigand playstyle
-villages don't count as fiefs, only useless castles and town do.
-no upgradable villages
-no manhunters
-no naval combat
-RtR system from Warband discarded, a clown could become a faction leader overnight.
-no books or trainers.
-no hitmens targeting you/random encounters like the belligerent drunk.
-no lords consipiring on each others, no duels. 0 political intrigue.
-no political quests and denouncement quests.
-no deserters
-no deeper courtships, just gamble rng, no poems.
-no real reason to visit towns/castle/villages at all.
-no camping.
-lots of other content removed/discarded.
-meme ingame economy.
-meme ingame diplomacy.
-lots of exploit-early game is a chore/boring.
-meme mid-late game

Mod scene is dead, aside from the few projects still alive thanks to the sunk cost fallacy (warhammer,rome...) others are dropped/dead because the modders had enough (ex:play as a soldier mod).
What is shameful is that there are some mods that fix bugs 6-7 months before talesworld finally fix them in game (siege fix and other stuff),really shows that some ambititous nobodies are better devs than the actual devs.
MP pop is 200 max,5-6 minutes to find a match,very unbalanced, servers still crash...

The fact that the game needs MODS (to be tolerable) despite being in EA tells alot..

[Firathmagi]

oof that doesnt sound good

[拿破戾翁-破拿霸地]

don't buy it, it is not a good game.

[Roz Britanicus]

This is the the most honest review of the bannerlord i have read and i 100% agree with it. Bannerlord is 5/10 at the moment at best.

[Cquarto91 Warband Mod Archiver]

No lol it's still an Alpha

[Hasbulat]

Originally posted by ★KING★BuBu:

Originally posted by Firathmagi:

does it feel more or less like a complete game with issues or a beta

-no feasts or events.
-no claimants/usurpers
-no cutscenes
-randomly generated companions < jeremus
-no promised gang/brigand playstyle
-villages don't count as fiefs, only useless castles and town do.
-no upgradable villages
-no manhunters
-no naval combat
-RtR system from Warband discarded, a clown could become a faction leader overnight.
-no books or trainers.
-no hitmens targeting you/random encounters like the belligerent drunk.
-no lords consipiring on each others, no duels. 0 political intrigue.
-no political quests and denouncement quests.
-no deserters
-no deeper courtships, just gamble rng, no poems.
-no real reason to visit towns/castle/villages at all.
-no camping.
-lots of other content removed/discarded.
-meme ingame economy.
-meme ingame diplomacy.
-lots of exploit-early game is a chore/boring.
-meme mid-late game

Mod scene is dead, aside from the few projects still alive thanks to the sunk cost fallacy (warhammer,rome...) others are dropped/dead because the modders had enough (ex:play as a soldier mod).
What is shameful is that there are some mods that fix bugs 6-7 months before talesworld finally fix them in game (siege fix and other stuff),really shows that some ambititous nobodies are better devs than the actual devs.
MP pop is 200 max,5-6 minutes to find a match,very unbalanced, servers still crash...

The fact that the game needs MODS (to be tolerable) despite being in EA tells alot..

Best overview of this game!

[Aven]

Originally posted by ★KING★BuBu:

Originally posted by Firathmagi:

does it feel more or less like a complete game with issues or a beta

-no feasts or events.
-no claimants/usurpers
-no cutscenes
-randomly generated companions < jeremus
-no promised gang/brigand playstyle
-villages don't count as fiefs, only useless castles and town do.
-no upgradable villages
-no manhunters
-no naval combat
-RtR system from Warband discarded, a clown could become a faction leader overnight.
-no books or trainers.
-no hitmens targeting you/random encounters like the belligerent drunk.
-no lords consipiring on each others, no duels. 0 political intrigue.
-no political quests and denouncement quests.
-no deserters
-no deeper courtships, just gamble rng, no poems.
-no real reason to visit towns/castle/villages at all.
-no camping.
-lots of other content removed/discarded.
-meme ingame economy.
-meme ingame diplomacy.
-lots of exploit-early game is a chore/boring.
-meme mid-late game

Mod scene is dead, aside from the few projects still alive thanks to the sunk cost fallacy (warhammer,rome...) others are dropped/dead because the modders had enough (ex:play as a soldier mod).
What is shameful is that there are some mods that fix bugs 6-7 months before talesworld finally fix them in game (siege fix and other stuff),really shows that some ambititous nobodies are better devs than the actual devs.
MP pop is 200 max,5-6 minutes to find a match,very unbalanced, servers still crash...

The fact that the game needs MODS (to be tolerable) despite being in EA tells alot..

I see you have fleshed out your list a bit, but it still suffers from the same flaws. Many of your missing features are only missing when compared to modded Warband, and, while some of the listed features are being actively worked on like cutscenes, you and many others just fail to realize that Bannerlord is a different game. It's approach to character development, diplomacy, kingdoms, minor factions, and the long game allows for greater depth, both in the game itself and in modding capabilities. It's a complete reboot of many of the genre's fundamental systems, and there are going to be growing pains. There will always be people that just can't see past the "no feasts" nonsense, but let the devs make the game they want to make and actually release it. Then you can go about tearing it apart because it just doesn't live up to 12 years of modding.

[Hasbulat]

A fan boy explains how everybody have to think. Its always very funny!

[Cosmic Cat]

Originally posted by Aven:

I see you have fleshed out your list a bit, but it still suffers from the same flaws. Many of your missing features are only missing when compared to modded Warband, and, while some of the listed features are being actively worked on like cutscenes, you and many others just fail to realize that Bannerlord is a different game. It's approach to character development, diplomacy, kingdoms, minor factions, and the long game allows for greater depth, both in the game itself and in modding capabilities. It's a complete reboot of many of the genre's fundamental systems, and there are going to be growing pains. There will always be people that just can't see past the "no feasts" nonsense, but let the devs make the game they want to make and actually release it. Then you can go about tearing it apart because it just doesn't live up to 12 years of modding.

Isn't it kind of the point of improving a successor title by "borrowing" or being inspired by features from super popular mods from its predcessor? I know many games where the developers have done just that, usually by popular demand.

Doesn't mean you have to copy everything obviously.

[★RULER★]

Originally posted by Aven:

Originally posted by ★KING★BuBu:

-no feasts or events.
-no claimants/usurpers
-no cutscenes
-randomly generated companions < jeremus
-no promised gang/brigand playstyle
-villages don't count as fiefs, only useless castles and town do.
-no upgradable villages
-no manhunters
-no naval combat
-RtR system from Warband discarded, a clown could become a faction leader overnight.
-no books or trainers.
-no hitmens targeting you/random encounters like the belligerent drunk.
-no lords consipiring on each others, no duels. 0 political intrigue.
-no political quests and denouncement quests.
-no deserters
-no deeper courtships, just gamble rng, no poems.
-no real reason to visit towns/castle/villages at all.
-no camping.
-lots of other content removed/discarded.
-meme ingame economy.
-meme ingame diplomacy.
-lots of exploit-early game is a chore/boring.
-meme mid-late game

Mod scene is dead, aside from the few projects still alive thanks to the sunk cost fallacy (warhammer,rome...) others are dropped/dead because the modders had enough (ex:play as a soldier mod).
What is shameful is that there are some mods that fix bugs 6-7 months before talesworld finally fix them in game (siege fix and other stuff),really shows that some ambititous nobodies are better devs than the actual devs.
MP pop is 200 max,5-6 minutes to find a match,very unbalanced, servers still crash...

The fact that the game needs MODS (to be tolerable) despite being in EA tells alot..

I see you have fleshed out your list a bit, but it still suffers from the same flaws. Many of your missing features are only missing when compared to modded Warband, and, while some of the listed features are being actively worked on like cutscenes, you and many others just fail to realize that Bannerlord is a different game. It's approach to character development, diplomacy, kingdoms, minor factions, and the long game allows for greater depth, both in the game itself and in modding capabilities. It's a complete reboot of many of the genre's fundamental systems, and there are going to be growing pains. There will always be people that just can't see past the "no feasts" nonsense, but let the devs make the game they want to make and actually release it. Then you can go about tearing it apart because it just doesn't live up to 12 years of modding.

>your missing features are only missing when compared to modded Warband.

either lies/cope or a mistake on your part, I'm only making a comparison to native warband, if I were to take mods into consideration I would've to write a book...
Mods like nova aetas drag bannerlord in the dirt...

[Aven]

Originally posted by ★KING★BuBu:

either lies/cope or a mistake on your part, I'm only making a comparison to native warband, if I were to take mods into consideration I would've to write a book...
Mods like nova aetas drag bannerlord in the dirt...

Modded or otherwise lacking from native Warband:
-no upgradable villages
-no naval combat
-no real reason to visit towns/castle/villages at all.
-meme ingame economy
-meme ingame diplomacy
-villages don't count as fiefs, only useless castles and town do.
-no promised gang/brigand playstyle
-meme mid-late game

WIP for Bannerlord:
-no cutscenes
-randomly generated companions < jeremus
-no claimants/usurpers
-no feasts or events
-no deeper courtships, just gamble rng, no poems.

Not actually missing, simply replaced with other systems:
-no deserters
-no camping
-no books or trainers.
-RtR system from Warband discarded, a clown could become a faction leader overnight.

Your personal opinions:
-lots of exploit-early game is a chore/boring.
-lots of other content removed/discarded.

Actually missing and could actually benefit Bannerlord:
-no manhunters
-no hitmens targeting you/random encounters like the belligerent drunk.
-no lords consipiring on each others, no duels. 0 political intrigue.
-no political quests and denouncement quests.

[LKAI]

Originally posted by Aven:

Originally posted by ★KING★BuBu:

-no feasts or events.
-no claimants/usurpers
-no cutscenes
-randomly generated companions < jeremus
-no promised gang/brigand playstyle
-villages don't count as fiefs, only useless castles and town do.
-no upgradable villages
-no manhunters
-no naval combat
-RtR system from Warband discarded, a clown could become a faction leader overnight.
-no books or trainers.
-no hitmens targeting you/random encounters like the belligerent drunk.
-no lords consipiring on each others, no duels. 0 political intrigue.
-no political quests and denouncement quests.
-no deserters
-no deeper courtships, just gamble rng, no poems.
-no real reason to visit towns/castle/villages at all.
-no camping.
-lots of other content removed/discarded.
-meme ingame economy.
-meme ingame diplomacy.
-lots of exploit-early game is a chore/boring.
-meme mid-late game

Mod scene is dead, aside from the few projects still alive thanks to the sunk cost fallacy (warhammer,rome...) others are dropped/dead because the modders had enough (ex:play as a soldier mod).
What is shameful is that there are some mods that fix bugs 6-7 months before talesworld finally fix them in game (siege fix and other stuff),really shows that some ambititous nobodies are better devs than the actual devs.
MP pop is 200 max,5-6 minutes to find a match,very unbalanced, servers still crash...

The fact that the game needs MODS (to be tolerable) despite being in EA tells alot..

I see you have fleshed out your list a bit, but it still suffers from the same flaws. Many of your missing features are only missing when compared to modded Warband, and, while some of the listed features are being actively worked on like cutscenes, you and many others just fail to realize that Bannerlord is a different game. It's approach to character development, diplomacy, kingdoms, minor factions, and the long game allows for greater depth, both in the game itself and in modding capabilities. It's a complete reboot of many of the genre's fundamental systems, and there are going to be growing pains. There will always be people that just can't see past the "no feasts" nonsense, but let the devs make the game they want to make and actually release it. Then you can go about tearing it apart because it just doesn't live up to 12 years of modding.

I played warband on xbox that has no mod capability. All of these features were in the game. Playing this on PC was no fun without mods, I would not suggest going into this game because of the lacking features and, from some of the information mods share, these features can sometimes be a simple 5 or 6 lines of code in some case (at least from their explanation to a laymen) . I think Turkey had it rough with covid but I also wonder if they lost their best coders from the original.

[★RULER★]

Originally posted by Aven:

Originally posted by ★KING★BuBu:

either lies/cope or a mistake on your part, I'm only making a comparison to native warband, if I were to take mods into consideration I would've to write a book...
Mods like nova aetas drag bannerlord in the dirt...

Modded or otherwise lacking from native Warband:
-no upgradable villages
-no naval combat
-no real reason to visit towns/castle/villages at all.
-meme ingame economy
-meme ingame diplomacy
-villages don't count as fiefs, only useless castles and town do.
-no promised gang/brigand playstyle
-meme mid-late game

WIP for Bannerlord:
-no cutscenes
-randomly generated companions < jeremus
-no claimants/usurpers
-no feasts or events
-no deeper courtships, just gamble rng, no poems.

Not actually missing, simply replaced with other systems:
-no deserters
-no camping
-no books or trainers.
-RtR system from Warband discarded, a clown could become a faction leader overnight.

Your personal opinions:
-lots of exploit-early game is a chore/boring.
-lots of other content removed/discarded.

Actually missing and could actually benefit Bannerlord:
-no manhunters
-no hitmens targeting you/random encounters like the belligerent drunk.
-no lords consipiring on each others, no duels. 0 political intrigue.
-no political quests and denouncement quests.

You've exposed yourself shill.

Modded or otherwise lacking from native Warband:
-no upgradable villages
what are mills,watchtowers,manors,school and messenger post ? hmmm ????
-no naval combat
viking conquest ????
-no real reason to visit towns/castle/villages at all.
quests ?
-meme ingame economy
warband economy was harder than bannerlord to abuse, you actually needed to have capital.
-meme ingame diplomacy
warband diplomacy even if barebones still dabs on bannerlords irrationnal ai.
-villages don't count as fiefs, only useless castles and town do.
huh sorry ? each time you join a faction you first start with a village ? did you even play the game ????
-no promised gang/brigand playstyle
true,didn't exist in warband but was promised in the 2016 trailers and expos, where is it now ? its 2022 ???
-meme mid-late game
warband mid game is very nice, late game is kinda easy.

Not actually missing, simply replaced with other systems:
-no deserters
there's no replacement for deserters in bannerlord,stop with your lies
-no camping
same as above
-no books or trainers.
same as above
-RtR system from Warband discarded, a clown could become a faction leader overnight.
do you even know what the RtR system is ?

Your personal opinions:
-lots of exploit-early game is a chore/boring.
there are whole channels on youtube who's main content is exploited bannerlord, see the spiffing brit for example.
-lots of other content removed/discarded.
how much do they pay you per post ? 0.03 lira ? do a better job.
they tried hard to bury the 2016 videos but they are still available on youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czfPYoJ7PTY

[Endeavor]

Originally posted by ★KING★BuBu:

Originally posted by Firathmagi:

does it feel more or less like a complete game with issues or a beta

-no feasts or events.
-no claimants/usurpers
-no cutscenes
-randomly generated companions < jeremus
-no promised gang/brigand playstyle
-villages don't count as fiefs, only useless castles and town do.
-no upgradable villages
-no manhunters
-no naval combat
-RtR system from Warband discarded, a clown could become a faction leader overnight.
-no books or trainers.
-no hitmens targeting you/random encounters like the belligerent drunk.
-no lords consipiring on each others, no duels. 0 political intrigue.
-no political quests and denouncement quests.
-no deserters
-no deeper courtships, just gamble rng, no poems.
-no real reason to visit towns/castle/villages at all.
-no camping.
-lots of other content removed/discarded.
-meme ingame economy.
-meme ingame diplomacy.
-lots of exploit-early game is a chore/boring.
-meme mid-late game

Mod scene is dead, aside from the few projects still alive thanks to the sunk cost fallacy (warhammer,rome...) others are dropped/dead because the modders had enough (ex:play as a soldier mod).
What is shameful is that there are some mods that fix bugs 6-7 months before talesworld finally fix them in game (siege fix and other stuff),really shows that some ambititous nobodies are better devs than the actual devs.
MP pop is 200 max,5-6 minutes to find a match,very unbalanced, servers still crash...

The fact that the game needs MODS (to be tolerable) despite being in EA tells alot..

This is a great post seriosuly priceless summary. I have seen many people criticise bannerlord and there has been really great voices such as Sheepify but not like this.

Now lets see how they are gonna white knight this post as well.