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There's no way to covince them to join, they are not talking to you at 1.5.10
Anyone can barter in 1.5.10?
The traditional way to do it is to get good relations with them, and the successful conversation is linked to charm, as charm has perks that reduce critical failure and raise your success chance. To raise charm all you really have to do is talk to people, you can give them gifts, this is what I believe lame horses are useful for lol.
The lord also has to be the head of the clan, or they will not even talk to you about it, they will instead tell you to talk to ect about it. Once you do talk to that individual, try to have at least a positive relation, and before you try to convince the individual to join you, save your game, the conversation success chance is kind of RNG, so can be annoying.
Of course since they changed the system maybe its just broken now. I didn't get the opportunity to check.
Nope, it's not the answer. Even Lords with no land wont join you, try it :)
And you are playing with 1.5.10beta right?
use the encyclopedia to search for such guys.
just give them also a little gold before you talk to them then and make sure you also have some charm. also it will be quite expensive from 100k to 500k, so get some money first.
works in 1.5.10 beta without a problem. in my current playthrough i got like 15 clans.
the easiest way is to wage war with the kingdom you want to debauch the nobles.
as soon as you win a battle and you capture a noble you release him and you will make at least +10 relation with his clan, as soon as you have enough relation +50 or +60 etc you make peace and you go to them see .
WARNING !!!
save your game just before because you only have one chance, if you missed it you will never be able to try to convince him again so if you fail you reload your game.
you must also have attributes to help, for example generosity, etc., but also the more points you have in charm, the more chances you have to convince him (by releasing them immediately after a battle you will earn points in the charm skill ) There, that's about it :)