The more i play the game the more i find it very shallow

[DaniTheHero]

I don't know. Maybe i'm approaching this all in the wrong way but the game seems very.. empty.

There doesn't seem to be much to it other than the battles themselves, and even they aren't as great as i wanted them to be.
Commanding options are fairly limited and the AI is horrendous (especially in sieges but in general too).
The combat is also fairly barebones for such a "new" title. It doesn't have the depth or the flare of say Mordhau. Just swing up/left/right and try to block in time. It all feels quite stiff.

Everything else just.. barely exists.

There are no real politics or relationships/friendships. You are pretty much limited to just bartering.

Quests don't really exist. Anything an NPC gives is just repetitive placeholders, with no meaning, depth or anything interesting going for them.
The main quest seems to be incomplete as well, and isn't satisfying in the least ( which is why most people ignore it altogether).

Personality traits are either not working or simply pointless as of now. It is near impossible to gain any trait throughout "regular" play. A whole lifetime of on letting go of enemies (never taking prisoner) did not even get the merciful trait. Yet almost any negative action instantly makes you lose them/gain bad ones. The traits don't matter for the AI/NPC either other than some choices when they are in the same army as you.

There's no "events" in towns other than Arenas, and even they i wish would be a bit more expanded on.

The towns/villages are "dead", i find no reason, other than workshop buying, to ever actually travel rather than use menus inside them.

There are no Matrilineal marriages. Why?

No voice acting other than soldiers yelling and that one person from the main quest saying a couple of lines.

Of course many balancing issues that exist including money earning/daily income and siege preparation

And much more. that would take me ages to list.

(Also although this is more of a personal issue, i also feel like i have no real impact on the battle, unless i'm playing on the lowest difficulties. Since you are treated as a regular soldier ,almost everything oneshots or at least two shots you and other than cheesing with the athletics skill. Would of been nice to feel more "Special".)

Maybe i'm expecting too much, i don't know how big the team is and how much resources they have. But i feel like 7ish years of development + one full year of public Early access would yield more. Especially since that mentioned year was used mostly fixing the many glitches and bugs ( which IS very very welcome!!) but no real adding content/refining the content.

[Zegema Beach]

Uraeust eredeti hozzászólása:

Well it is still an early access game and developers are working on it.

yeah.....

[Ruffio]

Mr. A eredeti hozzászólása:

Ruffio eredeti hozzászólása:

I guess EU14 stole it from "Two steps from hell" then. You should look into them.

Which song?I tried looking for it here but no luck https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9O4_awEHh1g

https://www.twostepsfromhell.com/

Keep looking -) They got a few albums.

[tim.]

Literally what does any of this have to do with the original topic? Make a new thread if you want to go down some rabbit hole of whether or not Taleworlds stole music.

[Esce]

Mr. A eredeti hozzászólása:

Since we are talking about the music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6oH5cW7PaA

Now listen to

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjQfbIE8pg0

These two tracks sound very similar. TW stole this track from EU4. The game music isn't even original. Million dollar budget with government funding and they can't afford to hire a composer...

Here you go with United We Stand, Divided We Fall by Two Steps from Hell:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6O6Q1OiF6LI

I know it is surprising that a company which makes music actually succeed in selling it to more than one customer.
If you want to know who Taleworlds hired to compose music for Bannerlord check out Finn Selinger.

[myperfectvictory]

Esce eredeti hozzászólása:

Mr. A eredeti hozzászólása:

Since we are talking about the music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6oH5cW7PaA

Now listen to

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjQfbIE8pg0

These two tracks sound very similar. TW stole this track from EU4. The game music isn't even original. Million dollar budget with government funding and they can't afford to hire a composer...

Here you go with United We Stand, Divided We Fall by Two Steps from Hell:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6O6Q1OiF6LI

I know it is surprising that a company which makes music actually succeed in selling it to more than one customer.
If you want to know who Taleworlds hired to compose music for Bannerlord check out Finn Selinger.

That's even worse that TW had to seek the license rights for permission to use their music, instead of allocating the millions in their budget chest for a composer to create an actual original soundtrack for bannerlord. They probably could have afforded a high profile composer like Hans Zimmer if they wanted to. Most games have their own individualized soundtrack. Look at Halo, Skyrim, even Call of Duty. Those games are examples of having composers that tailored music specifically for those games. Video game music has a lot to do with the identity of a game.

[Esce]

Mr. A eredeti hozzászólása:

Esce eredeti hozzászólása:

Here you go with United We Stand, Divided We Fall by Two Steps from Hell:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6O6Q1OiF6LI

I know it is surprising that a company which makes music actually succeed in selling it to more than one customer.
If you want to know who Taleworlds hired to compose music for Bannerlord check out Finn Selinger.

That's even worse that TW had to seek the license rights for permission to use their music, instead of allocating the millions in their budget chest for a composer to create an actual original soundtrack for bannerlord.

They hired Finn Selinger to make the Bannerlord Soundtrack, or even used the good music from Warband/M&B1 made by Jesse Hopkins.
Is the Two Steps from Hell music even used ingame, beside the trailer(s)?

Mr. A eredeti hozzászólása:

Most games have their own individualized soundtrack. Look at Halo, Skyrim, even Call of Duty. Video game music has a lot to do with the identity of the game.

That is why Bannerlord also got its own music. Not that other companies did not also buy Two Steps from Hell songs for their trailers...

[myperfectvictory]

Esce eredeti hozzászólása:

Mr. A eredeti hozzászólása:

That's even worse that TW had to seek the license rights for permission to use their music, instead of allocating the millions in their budget chest for a composer to create an actual original soundtrack for bannerlord.

They hired Finn Selinger to make the Bannerlord Soundtrack, or even used the good music from Warband/M&B1 made by Jesse Hopkins.
Is the Two Steps from Hell music even used ingame, beside the trailer(s)?

Mr. A eredeti hozzászólása:

Most games have their own individualized soundtrack. Look at Halo, Skyrim, even Call of Duty. Video game music has a lot to do with the identity of the game.

That is why Bannerlord also got its own music. Not that other companies did not also buy Two Steps from Hell songs for their trailers...

The game's soundtrack is also non-exclusive. This is confirmed in the in-game credits, as someone posted in this thread. There is music in the game that is not unique to the game. Borrowed/stolen assets. That is the argument.

[Esce]

Mr. A eredeti hozzászólása:

The game's soundtrack is also non-exclusive. This is confirmed in the in-game credits, as someone posted in this thread. There is music in the game that is not unique to the game. Borrowed/stolen assets. That is the argument.

Now it is "Borrowed/stolen" after you got the name of a company that sells the specific music you complained about?
You can argue that not having a complete unique soundtrack is lazy from Taleworlds side, but claiming that they steal things is a bit far fetched is not it?

[myperfectvictory]

Esce eredeti hozzászólása:

Mr. A eredeti hozzászólása:

The game's soundtrack is also non-exclusive. This is confirmed in the in-game credits, as someone posted in this thread. There is music in the game that is not unique to the game. Borrowed/stolen assets. That is the argument.

Now it is "Borrowed/stolen" after you got the name of a company that sells the specific music you complained about?
You can argue that not having a complete unique soundtrack is lazy from Taleworlds side, but claiming that they steal things is a bit far fetched is not it?

You are aware of what copyright infringement is?

[Horked]

TW have prolly bought the track from TSFH, this is why we cant find this particular track (anymore) online.

Everyone knew it was TSFH music.

Everyone cept the big brains in this thread.

It was prolly one of the best choices they ever made.

[Something completely different]

Mr. A eredeti hozzászólása:

Esce eredeti hozzászólása:

Now it is "Borrowed/stolen" after you got the name of a company that sells the specific music you complained about?
You can argue that not having a complete unique soundtrack is lazy from Taleworlds side, but claiming that they steal things is a bit far fetched is not it?

You are aware of what copyright infringement is?

You are aware of what reaching and changing goalposts when the previous accusation falls utterly flat is?

[myperfectvictory]

Something completely different eredeti hozzászólása:

Mr. A eredeti hozzászólása:

You are aware of what copyright infringement is?

You are aware of what reaching and changing goalposts when the previous accusation falls utterly flat is?

Last I checked, TW doesn't own TSFH.

[Ruffio]

Sheepify eredeti hozzászólása:

]Mate, at this point you're coming off like the opposite version of Ruffio.

Why thanks Shaun -) I take that as a compliment! I won't lump you in with him either, He come across as a "Sidney Powell" clone -)

[Mr Conspicuous]

Nope it is very shallow. It has a lot going on but nothing at all. It looks good and has some immersion but not enough to keep you coming back for more and more. The more you come back the more holes in the facade you see.

[Ruffio]

Hax eredeti hozzászólása:

Nope it is very shallow. It has a lot going on but nothing at all. It looks good and has some immersion but not enough to keep you coming back for more and more. The more you come back the more holes in the facade you see.

So did you get it on epic gamestore, gamepass or something? Steam it's not?