Is Smithing worth it for making weapons?

[can u chill]

Considering the money making part does not interest me, do smithed weapons actually get better than these super expensive weapons you find in shops? And is the difference big enough to justify the grind?

[Natasha]

Since there's now smithing orders is basically how i make most of my money that and the arena perks.

[Urmel]

short: no
you dont get enough recipes, but you need them to skill smithing.

you get a handfull recipes at start and can make endless money with them. if you dont need this advantage smithing is 100% broken atm, maybe more then bevore the nerf.

[can u chill]

Ok so if I don't need the money, then it's not worth it. Got it, thanks :)

[Silamon]

Unless things have changed since I last played a few months ago, it is kinda hard to find 2h swords for sale. If that is something you want to use smithing would be the way to get one.

It is also hilariously op for making money, you can easily make weapons worth over 100k.

[Hatchero]

I love making my own clan's smithed weapons, however the slow pace of unlocked parts for the type I like to build/use is annoying.

[Clovis Sangrail]

I like to make big-ass 2H swords to onw-hit bandit lords, and I make myself a big-ass 2H axe for chopping down castle and town inner gates. You just cannot buy that stuff.

[Starwight/ttv]

Originally posted by Silamon:

Unless things have changed since I last played a few months ago, it is kinda hard to find 2h swords for sale. If that is something you want to use smithing would be the way to get one.

It is also hilariously op for making money, you can easily make weapons worth over 100k.

Yeah, might I suggest refraining from commenting on current balance when they released a new version?

[Edmund Greyfox]

Originally posted by Urmel:

short: no
you dont get enough recipes, but you need them to skill smithing.

you get a handfull recipes at start and can make endless money with them. if you dont need this advantage smithing is 100% broken atm, maybe more then bevore the nerf.

Not really accurate. There are a number of weapons you can make that are much better then what is sold in shops, particularly two handed axes,

[Starwight/ttv]

Originally posted by Edmund Greyfox:

Originally posted by Urmel:

short: no
you dont get enough recipes, but you need them to skill smithing.

you get a handfull recipes at start and can make endless money with them. if you dont need this advantage smithing is 100% broken atm, maybe more then bevore the nerf.

Not really accurate. There are a number of weapons you can make that are much better then what is sold in shops, particularly two handed axes,

Yep, and javelins too if throwing weapons are your thing. You can make javs that do a crap-ton of damage. You can make some great one handers as well once you unlock the parts.

[Silamon]

Originally posted by Starwight/ttv:

Originally posted by Silamon:

Unless things have changed since I last played a few months ago, it is kinda hard to find 2h swords for sale. If that is something you want to use smithing would be the way to get one.

It is also hilariously op for making money, you can easily make weapons worth over 100k.

Yeah, might I suggest refraining from commenting on current balance when they released a new version?

I looked through the 1.6 patch notes and saw nothing about a nerf to smithing values. I also saw nothing about new 2h swords in the shop.

Unless there was an update that is not mentioned in the patch notes, my experience from 1.59 should still be relevant, no?

[can u chill]

Can someone do me a solid and compare a crafted 2H axe to the Northern Decorated Two-Handed Axe for example? As in stat by stat? If the difference is huge I might give it a go, but grinding this boring *** skill to the max for some minuscule difference is a no-go for me

[Edmund Greyfox]

I just started a new game to play the latest patch and haven't skilled it up far enough to do that comparison yet, or unlocked any of the right parts. Prior experience is that a two handed axe with a large bardiche head and the longest possible tier 5 handle is absolutely the best axe you can make in terms of reach and damage, though it's a bit slow to swing. Fantastic horseback weapon for killing infantry, and its my go to weapon in sieges since i use it to break down the inner gate and chop through the shield wall that's always formed up in the courtyard. A long glaive is a bit better for swatting cavalry when you're on horse back because it has more reach, but the fine steel menavilion is pretty good for that too (though i seem to be having a hard time finding one for sale in my current game).

[phantombandit]

Originally posted by The Dark Command:

Ok so if I don't need the money, then it's not worth it. Got it, thanks :)

I think it is. It lets you create a weapon that is very specific for your needs. It is not whether a weapon is 'better' than another or not. For example if you want a spear that can couch or swing, or you want one that is longer or shorter, or if you want a longer two handed or a mace etc... I have crafted all my weapons. I have a super long couched lance, a long two handed sword and a short but powerful one handed mace. I also have a short two handed swinging polearm for seiges.

[Power Button]

hmm... I'm starting to take interest in smithing with this thread.

So far, I've been thinking that smithing are useless, not necessary feature, redundant and just cause more drama than what it actually be meaningful.

Since it could create anything better than what's available in shops then I'm in.

As for money making, I prefer to impale those rock-throwing peasants rather than fullfiling persumably boring smithing orders.

[Edmund Greyfox]

I'm hesitant to really speak about the good/bad of the current system since i'm just starting to play around with it in my current game. In the past the early part was a grind, but once you unlocked a few mid tier parts for certain weapons it was the easiest skill in the game to power level up. I'll spend more time with it this evening and try and post some follow ups later on.