WTF is wrong with party's wages

[Cpt. Weiner]

Hi, I just started a new party with like 20 recruits in it, in time of peace just to get and train men faster. Problem is, it says the current wage is 50 bucks a day which would make sense but in the profit/expense table it cost me over 1500 denars a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ day! WTF man. Please help. thanks!

[Janek]

Originally posted by Cpt. Weiner:

Hi, I just started a new party with like 20 recruits in it, in time of peace just to get and train men faster. Problem is, it says the current wage is 50 bucks a day which would make sense but in the profit/expense table it cost me over 1500 denars a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ day! WTF man. Please help. thanks!

Provide a screenshot of your wages in the campaign screen (mouse over the income icon) so that we can help?

[Cpt. Weiner]

well I'd like to but it seems to be ok now, it cost me 1500 the first day, 900 the second and now it fell down to the right wage. I just don't get it... This game is more rage inducing than a Bennett Foddy game

[Distant ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥]

Do you have another clan party? They borrow money from you if they can't pay for themselves. They'll eventually make enough money from fighting.

You can also limit the amount they can borrow from you if I remember correctly, don't know for sure, still playing on 1.5.9 and it doesn't have that feature yet.

Also check if you aren't losing money because of your workshops having to spend more on materials than they get from selling the end product.

[Xherdos]

Originally posted by Goatman:

Do you have another clan party? They borrow money from you if they can't pay for themselves. They'll eventually make enough money from fighting.

You can also limit the amount they can borrow from you if I remember correctly, don't know for sure, still playing on 1.5.9 and it doesn't have that feature yet.

that is actually the Party Wages, you can set a amount like 500 gold and they won't go over it.

if they go over it their Soldiers will leave the Party.

[Cpt. Weiner]

Well that's the thing, I always limit the wage to 500 denars at first and give them couple of recruit so it shouldn't go over like 60 denars a day but it seems to cost 1500 the first few days anyway. Can it possibly be a bug?

[AfLIcTeD]

That extra cost is them recruiting, upgrading and buying supplies, etc. That is why it only happens sometimes.

The wage cap seems poorly implemented as it doesn't stop them upgrading troops. So if they upgrade and go over the wage limit their troops will desert. It also doesn't prevent those extra costs.

[Cpt. Weiner]

wait I thought they were using their own money for this? If this is true I should receive money from loot and so on right?

[Cpt. Weiner]

I swear every mechanics of this game make me feel like I'm being scammed lol

[ankh]

Originally posted by Cpt. Weiner:

I swear every mechanics of this game make me feel like I'm being scammed lol

you just have to abuse broken mechanics to not get ♥♥♥♥♥♥. Just abuse the hell out of smithing

[AfLIcTeD]

Originally posted by Cpt. Weiner:

wait I thought they were using their own money for this? If this is true I should receive money from loot and so on right?

If they have some, yes. If not it comes from you. When they win battles they will keep the money then that is then given to you as income. It works both ways. That is why it is best to keep them in your army as you will most likely win your battles. Then they will pretty much pay for themselves.

[Onimaho]

Originally posted by Cpt. Weiner:

Hi, I just started a new party with like 20 recruits in it, in time of peace just to get and train men faster. Problem is, it says the current wage is 50 bucks a day which would make sense but in the profit/expense table it cost me over 1500 denars a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ day! WTF man. Please help. thanks!

Do not waste your time with companions or companion parties until you are are mid/late game. They are a huge drain on your resources and fight like ♥♥♥♥ compared to cheaper t3-4 troops. As for the argument of...but you could level them up in stuff, not really worth it early game, it is best to focus on your own character being awesome at everything.

When you get to mid to late game, then maybe consider it so you have armies you can rally to your side because your party will not be 2k troop capable on its own...but yeah, you are still paying to have those auxiliary parties in your clan, sometimes they make enough from their adventures to cover their costs...but usually they are a net negative.

[Sild]

Originally posted by Cpt. Weiner:

Well that's the thing, I always limit the wage to 500 denars at first and give them couple of recruit so it shouldn't go over like 60 denars a day but it seems to cost 1500 the first few days anyway. Can it possibly be a bug?

If it's a clan party the money you saw it "ate" was recruitment expenses not wages, even though i think it's described as being "party wages". It just taxes you at the end of the day instead of right when they recruit their men. Ater they reach the max number of troops it stabilises in only wage expenses.

[KIPIUŚ]

Pro tip: own 4-5 towns and you will never be poor again. You will be earning every day. I hold an army of 350 men + 4 companion's troops and i still get 2-3k daily. I also got 6 workshops running.

[flyingscot1066]

Originally posted by Cpt. Weiner:

wait I thought they were using their own money for this? If this is true I should receive money from loot and so on right?

They don't have their own money. All money is Clan funds.

[Cpt. Weiner]

Originally posted by Hatton:

Pro tip: own 4-5 towns and you will never be poor again. You will be earning every day. I hold an army of 350 men + 4 companion's troops and i still get 2-3k daily. I also got 6 workshops running.

well I have 2 castles, 4 towns, 3 caravans and 4 workshops I'm still poor af and I barely break even. I must REALLY suck at this game :(
Also I'm playing realistic on every settings, that might explain the struggle no?

If you guys have a suggestion regarding the settings so that the game feels more balanced please share!