Founding a new Empire Kingdom is impossible

[Hawthorn]

3 new games .. carefully followed all the prompts. Talking the the female Iselbel? Only option is always .. I don't know which faction to support. Thats the only option. Yes yes .. I followed all the guides, Have a natural empire castle, never joined a faction .. 3 full restarts trying different things .. not one worked.

[Cryten]

Did you complete the quests for the empire and rebels to get the flag pieces. You tell them you will support them but that doesnt lock you into supporting them. At the end when you have the full banner you just refuse to hand it over.

[GIJoe597]

You must talk to both characters, Istiana and Arzagos. Both will ask you what your intentions are. Lie to them, if need be, to get further information.

There are three pieces of the banner. You get one piece during the tutorial and each of the above characters will tell you where to find the 2nd and 3rd.

Once you have all three, you must decide how you wish to proceed. Either destroy the Empire or Reunite the Empire.

NOTE: This quest is not fully implemented yet. There is a portion of it about a conspiracy which is not complete. Also, if you proceed, all factions will start declaring war on you non stop until you destroy them.

By the way, you can create your own kingdom without doing this quest, if that is your choice. This quest is intended for people who wish to participate in the story line of the Calradian Empire.

[TaleWorlds Community Team]

In order to found a new kingdom, you firstly need to own a castle or city and your clan must be tier 4.

If you meet those criteria, and additionally are not a vassal or mercenary in one of the factions, there will be a button 'Create Kingdom' on your clan tab. Push that button.

[radix_s]

I did not follow the quest line, instead I have built up a bigger party of around 100 men (supported by financially by 4 workshops in bigger cities) and then attacked a remote castle of an empire that had other wars going the that castle was quite far away form their main land (they conquered it deep inside enemy territory).
Then struggled for a while to keep it (it gave a very nice income boost so I could afford more and more men), enemy re-took it like 4 times until I got strong enough to counter-attack into the main territory. I got lucky other factions did not declare wars against me during that time or I would have been cooked.

Anyways I believe the game has way to many limits that enforce a particular game style (learning caps, party caps, workshop caps, very un-sandboxish) and it makes starting an empire a pain.

[Sinsling]

Originally posted by Hawthorn:

3 new games .. carefully followed all the prompts. Talking the the female Iselbel? Only option is always .. I don't know which faction to support. Thats the only option. Yes yes .. I followed all the guides, Have a natural empire castle, never joined a faction .. 3 full restarts trying different things .. not one worked.

Did you try "create kingdom" and setting your faction nationality to "empire"?

[Hawthorn]

Originally posted by Sinsling:

Originally posted by Hawthorn:

3 new games .. carefully followed all the prompts. Talking the the female Iselbel? Only option is always .. I don't know which faction to support. Thats the only option. Yes yes .. I followed all the guides, Have a natural empire castle, never joined a faction .. 3 full restarts trying different things .. not one worked.

Did you try "create kingdom" and setting your faction nationality to "empire"?

I tried everything mentioned .. EXCEPT .. my nationality is not Empire.. It is Valandia (for the bonus). I guess .. I can start .. AGAIN ..

Honestly .. this is a key part of the game, why is it so stupid and hard? Make a damn option that allows people to simply declare themselves a kingdom when they have the banner .. get rid of the stupid quests..

[Hawthorn]

Originally posted by TaleWorlds Community Team:

In order to found a new kingdom, you firstly need to own a castle or city and your clan must be tier 4.

If you meet those criteria, and additionally are not a vassal or mercenary in one of the factions, there will be a button 'Create Kingdom' on your clan tab. Push that button.

Like I said .. I have all green checks, I meet all the requirements. I talked to both of the people, I carefully went through the prompts and did not do anything non-standard or weird.. Its just broken.

[Hawthorn]

Originally posted by Khamal:

You say you support them both, they show you the hideouts for pieces of banner,than you choose which one you want to side by giving them the banner afterwards/aka talk to, as far as I remember

Yes yes .. I did all of that correctly. I followed the guide, step by step. It has worked in the past (I have a lot of hours played) .. Just in the last few releases it no longer works.

Has anyone started a new game in the last 2 releases and founded an Empire Kingdom?

Unmodded .. native game?

[Khamal]

Curious, what's your quest status at? could you show a pic?
Are you sure that you have both dragon banner pieces and didn't forget a hideout? ik im asking obvious, the reason I ask is if you talked to them both, and both hideouts appeared, it gives chance to error instead of doing it one after the one,unless this was fixed(aka bandit dying before you get there, meaning no banner for you)
Also how long did you wait until doing the quest? do you have fiefs? etc

[Hawthorn]

I deleted my saves. I am uninstalling and reinstalling .. I will try again .. It has to be corruption .. or some old mod or something.

[peacefighter]

EDITORIAL

I was frustrated playing the game when I cannot create a kingdom. I too thought I broke the game, so I started a new one after more than 170 hours with the first one. I did both Istiana and Arzagos quests. I fullfilled all the clan requirements and revisited both quest givers. I wanted my own kingdom. After meeting the requirements I thought that there will be a dialogue from either quest giver(s) about creating one. As //Hawthorn// had indicated in Post #6, why can't the game just give the player the option to create a kingdom after meeting all the requirements in the quest giver dialogue. Instead, the game developers have to bury the option inside a folder without giving a hint that the option had become available. After about 200 hours into my second game, sieging castles and towns with only a party of one, I accidentally discovered the option. I was angry about this because I can never get back my wasted 170 hours.

[Sinsling]

Originally posted by Hawthorn:

Originally posted by Sinsling:

Did you try "create kingdom" and setting your faction nationality to "empire"?

I tried everything mentioned .. EXCEPT .. my nationality is not Empire.. It is Valandia (for the bonus). I guess .. I can start .. AGAIN ..

Honestly .. this is a key part of the game, why is it so stupid and hard? Make a damn option that allows people to simply declare themselves a kingdom when they have the banner .. get rid of the stupid quests..

did you own an empire castle/settlement? did you choose empire for the kingdom you created when making the kingdom?