Is there any two handed swords??

[pro0alex]

I know there actually are two handed swords. But I find it very stupid that I am travelling to every city and yet cant find a two handed sword. I feel like every faction would have some kind of two handed sword no?? Atleast there should be atleast some. Is anybody else having this problem and is there any place that has them that I haven't tried yet??

Thank you

[𝔗𝔢𝔞 ❀]

Try Battanians, but you may need to rank up your faction a bit to find better loot. There is so much that is hidden until late game.

[Zef]

Battanians like tea said if you want 2 handed swords especially.

[azziel]

hm... i can craft u some nasty looking helowa 1 shot decapitate 2handers

[thunda]

Two handed swords suck anyway. Enable cheat mode, and take a look at the inventory. You'll see the two handers for the most part are 90-100 in length! Lol, theyre useless.

Even with smithing you cant actually make a real two handed sword, 132 or something is maximum length you can get. And thats with the bugged hilt.

[azziel]

Originally posted by thunda:

Two handed swords suck anyway. Enable cheat mode, and take a look at the inventory. You'll see the two handers for the most part are 90-100 in length! Lol, theyre useless.

Even with smithing you cant actually make a real two handed sword, 132 or something is maximum length you can get. And thats with the bugged hilt.

my friend , i smith 2handers with minimum lenght 123, all depends on a handle and blade

[thunda]

Originally posted by azziel:

Originally posted by thunda:

Two handed swords suck anyway. Enable cheat mode, and take a look at the inventory. You'll see the two handers for the most part are 90-100 in length! Lol, theyre useless.

Even with smithing you cant actually make a real two handed sword, 132 or something is maximum length you can get. And thats with the bugged hilt.

my friend , i smith 2handers with minimum lenght 123, all depends on a handle and blade

My friend, I looked at every 2 handed sword part, picked the longest ones, increased their length to maximum with the slider. 132 or thereabouts is largest you can make. 123 is tiny for a 2-hander. I can make 1 handed swords that are that length.

2-handed swords are so bad in this game, mainly because theyre tiny. You need a minimum length 150 melee weapon from horseback unless youre a masochist.

[FourGreenFields]

Originally posted by thunda:

Two handed swords suck anyway. Enable cheat mode, and take a look at the inventory. You'll see the two handers for the most part are 90-100 in length! Lol, theyre useless.

Even with smithing you cant actually make a real two handed sword, 132 or something is maximum length you can get. And thats with the bugged hilt.

TwOhAnDerS' OnLY adVAnTagE iS LeNGtH

Two-handed swords have high damage, and you can swing long twohanders much faster than long onehanded swords. >100 damage at >90 swing speed isn't exactly useless.

Originally posted by thunda:

You need a minimum length 150 melee weapon from horseback unless youre a masochist.

If you pick targets that aren't focused on you even about 100 is perfectly fine. Though yes, length helps a lot from horseback.

Then again, twohanded swords from horseback... pretty sure that's a severe case of the realisms.

[pro0alex]

Originally posted by thunda:

Originally posted by azziel:

my friend , i smith 2handers with minimum lenght 123, all depends on a handle and blade

My friend, I looked at every 2 handed sword part, picked the longest ones, increased their length to maximum with the slider. 132 or thereabouts is largest you can make. 123 is tiny for a 2-hander. I can make 1 handed swords that are that length.

2-handed swords are so bad in this game, mainly because theyre tiny. You need a minimum length 150 melee weapon from horseback unless youre a masochist.

If that's the case I'd say they need to fix that. two handed swords should be Improved alot!! And alot more!! I find the weapons In general are lacking theres just not nearly enough then there should be.

[pro0alex]

Originally posted by azziel:

hm... i can craft u some nasty looking helowa 1 shot decapitate 2handers

If you could me the sword

[pro0alex]

Originally posted by 𝔗𝔢𝔞 ❀:

Try Battanians, but you may need to rank up your faction a bit to find better loot. There is so much that is hidden until late game.

You don't need to be higher ranked just to buy better stuff do you??

[JtDarth]

Originally posted by FourGreenFields:

Originally posted by thunda:

Two handed swords suck anyway. Enable cheat mode, and take a look at the inventory. You'll see the two handers for the most part are 90-100 in length! Lol, theyre useless.

Even with smithing you cant actually make a real two handed sword, 132 or something is maximum length you can get. And thats with the bugged hilt.

TwOhAnDerS' OnLY adVAnTagE iS LeNGtH

Two-handed swords have high damage, and you can swing long twohanders much faster than long onehanded swords. >100 damage at >90 swing speed isn't exactly useless.

Originally posted by thunda:

You need a minimum length 150 melee weapon from horseback unless youre a masochist.

If you pick targets that aren't focused on you even about 100 is perfectly fine. Though yes, length helps a lot from horseback.

Then again, twohanded swords from horseback... pretty sure that's a severe case of the realisms.

Realistically, to use a two-handed sword on horseback, you would literally need something with a hilt like a nagamaki to manage the kind of leverage and strength of grip needed to avoid it getting ripped out of your hands (or your shoulders getting screwed up) from a solid hit. Forget about using something like a zwei on horseback entirely.
This would be why previous M&B games gave a malus to damage modifiers from using a two-handed weapon on horseback.

As for the idiots claiming you need long length for a 'two-handed sword', historically, that's untrue unless you are talking about something ridiculous like a Zweihander that's designed to specifically fight horses or compete with the reach of pikes.

The primary practical advantage of a normal two-handed sword is the increased leverage, which results in a faster, more easily manipulated blade, with a more solid grip on the hilt. Actual blade length tended to be within half a foot of length of a contemporary one-handed sword. Generally speaking, the greater the length of blade, the longer hilt needed to maintain working leverage and grip, with the longer you make the blade, the less versatile the blade gets.
There is a reason that as history went on, swords got longer, then shrunk back down, when it comes to non-specialty swords. They pushed sword length to it's maximums, then discovered that at that point, you were better off just using some form of polearm than trying to use a sword of that size, resulting in swords shrinking back down.

[Zerosaiko]

Originally posted by pro0alex:

Originally posted by 𝔗𝔢𝔞 ❀:

Try Battanians, but you may need to rank up your faction a bit to find better loot. There is so much that is hidden until late game.

You don't need to be higher ranked just to buy better stuff do you??

As far as I can tell, yes. I don't think clan level's a good gate for it myself.

When your clan level is around 3 or so, you probably won't see weapons/armor going for over 40k. You should still be able to find some two-handed swords in Battania though that are cheap enough to avoid the cutoff. I think they'll still be around Tier 4 or 5? Just don't go looking for Noble Bows anytime soon.

[JtDarth]

Originally posted by Zerosaiko:

Originally posted by pro0alex:

You don't need to be higher ranked just to buy better stuff do you??

As far as I can tell, yes. I don't think clan level's a good gate for it myself.

When your clan level is around 3 or so, you probably won't see weapons/armor going for over 40k. You should still be able to find some two-handed swords in Battania though that are cheap enough to avoid the cutoff. I think they'll still be around Tier 4 or 5? Just don't go looking for Noble Bows anytime soon.

I mean, gating stuff around clan level does sorta make sense, if you argue it as the people running the factions restricting/reserving high end materials for nobility/known allies.
However, maybe rather than outright gating it off, simply have the prices be ludicrously high if your clan level isn't high enough, to represent having to monetarily 'persuade' the merchants to sell you stuff they technically aren't supposed to.

[Crim]

Most 1 handed swords can be used with 2 hands by sheathing the shield

[FourGreenFields]

Originally posted by Talamare:

Most 1 handed swords can be used with 2 hands by sheathing the shield

No. Very few can. And afaIk the ones that can are classed as two-handed, and grouped accordingly in the trade menu and inventory.
And you'll still have to switch modes after unequipping the shield.