Longbow men?

[Runertje550]

I hate crossbows, I just dont like them, I like bows, big bows, but all factions just have small ones.

Vlandia is the most 'modern' of all factions, but why not give them an alternative to the crossbowmen ? Why not add a Vlandian Longbow Men unit, with inspiration from the English longbow men

[Darth Revan]

one of the vlandian minor factions have them as far as i remember.

basically vlandia is the predecessor of both swadia and rhodok from warband and both of those factions only had crossbowman.

[Zef]

Because then they would be overpowered and also Battania's only decent unit (fians) would be worth less.

+ this:

basically vlandia is the predecessor of both swadia and rhodok from warband and both of those factions only had crossbowman.

[Runertje550]

Originally posted by Zef:

Because then they would be overpowered and also Battania's only decent unit (fians) would be worth less.

+ this:

basically vlandia is the predecessor of both swadia and rhodok from warband and both of those factions only had crossbowman.

Yeah but like, you've got multiple selection of longbows and there is only 1 faction I can recruit them from? Besides, I have tried to recruit Battanian bowmen but they are soooooooooooooOoOoOo rare to find, I once checked about 15 Battanian settlements and only 1 had a single bowman, only one, had one...

[Runertje550]

Originally posted by Legatus Lucanus:

one of the vlandian minor factions have them as far as i remember.

basically vlandia is the predecessor of both swadia and rhodok from warband and both of those factions only had crossbowman.

But I cannot recruit from minor factions right? They dont have fiefs and they just wonder around

[Darth Revan]

Originally posted by 1stAL Runertje550:

Originally posted by Legatus Lucanus:

one of the vlandian minor factions have them as far as i remember.

basically vlandia is the predecessor of both swadia and rhodok from warband and both of those factions only had crossbowman.

But I cannot recruit from minor factions right? They dont have fiefs and they just wonder around

as far as i know the only way to recruit from minor factions is to fight them, take prisoners and recruite the prisoners once they were long enough your prisoner to want to join you.

[Zef]

Originally posted by 1stAL Runertje550:

Originally posted by Zef:

Because then they would be overpowered and also Battania's only decent unit (fians) would be worth less.

+ this:

basically vlandia is the predecessor of both swadia and rhodok from warband and both of those factions only had crossbowman.

Yeah but like, you've got multiple selection of longbows and there is only 1 faction I can recruit them from? Besides, I have tried to recruit Battanian bowmen but they are soooooooooooooOoOoOo rare to find, I once checked about 15 Battanian settlements and only 1 had a single bowman, only one, had one...

You're doing it all wrong.

The way to farm elite units is not going from village to village but defeat enemy battanian lords (or sometimes mercenaries) who will have a higher chance of giving you battanian highborn youth's as prisoners. Then you convert said prisoners to your army and level them up 2 fians.

Same for any other faction.

[Fried Noodles]

I field an army exclusively of 130 (only Clan Tier 3 currently) longbowmen.

Most of my army are Battanian Fian Champions and Battanian Fians.

The rest are Forest Bandits and Freebooters who are working their way up to Fians.

You can convert captured Forest Bandits into Fians when they are ready to upgrade, either by having the Leadership 125 Perk "Disciplinarian" which lets you promote bandits to proper units or by having control of a fief that has a Training Ground.

Train your forest bandits until they're ready to upgrade and then dump them into your fief's garrison and wait there for about an ingame day. When you check your garrison again, all of your Forest Bandits should now be Battanian Fians.

[Runertje550]

Originally posted by Zef:

Originally posted by 1stAL Runertje550:

Yeah but like, you've got multiple selection of longbows and there is only 1 faction I can recruit them from? Besides, I have tried to recruit Battanian bowmen but they are soooooooooooooOoOoOo rare to find, I once checked about 15 Battanian settlements and only 1 had a single bowman, only one, had one...

You're doing it all wrong.

The way to farm elite units is not going from village to village but defeat enemy battanian lords (or sometimes mercenaries) who will have a higher chance of giving you battanian highborn youth's as prisoners. Then you convert said prisoners to your army and level them up 2 fians.

Same for any other faction.

Doesnt recruiting prisoners add up to your roguery?

[Zef]

Originally posted by 1stAL Runertje550:

Originally posted by Zef:

You're doing it all wrong.

The way to farm elite units is not going from village to village but defeat enemy battanian lords (or sometimes mercenaries) who will have a higher chance of giving you battanian highborn youth's as prisoners. Then you convert said prisoners to your army and level them up 2 fians.

Same for any other faction.

Doesnt recruiting prisoners add up to your roguery?

It does, but i don't see the issue?

[Runertje550]

Originally posted by Zef:

Originally posted by 1stAL Runertje550:

Doesnt recruiting prisoners add up to your roguery?

It does, but i don't see the issue?

Roguery is bad right

[The Ohio Question]

Originally posted by Zef:

Because then they would be overpowered and also Battania's only decent unit (fians) would be worth less.

+ this:

basically vlandia is the predecessor of both swadia and rhodok from warband and both of those factions only had crossbowman.

Side question, why is the "ambush archer faction" (even though there is no ambushes, dokay game) limited it ONE RARE archer line?! Should they not also have archers in there main tree?! instead we got those jav throwers.......

Just feels off.

[FourGreenFields]

Originally posted by Who Needs Sleep:

Originally posted by Zef:

Because then they would be overpowered and also Battania's only decent unit (fians) would be worth less.

+ this:

basically vlandia is the predecessor of both swadia and rhodok from warband and both of those factions only had crossbowman.

Side question, why is the "ambush archer faction" (even though there is no ambushes, dokay game) limited it ONE RARE archer line?! Should they not also have archers in there main tree?! instead we got those jav throwers.......

Just feels off.

I could imagine a volley of javelins being just as, or more, effective in an ambush situation (-> starting out at short range). Besides, skirmishers tend to be "not terrible" in melee combat (due to having shields, which archers usually don't have; unless player/companions).

Also, I don't see them referenced as that anywhere? I might've just missed it (not been playing Bannerlord that long, and not on the forum for too long either), but the only thing that points to them being an "ambush faction" would be the fact they're in forrests.

[Latter-day Saint Batman™]

NOCK!
Drawwwww!
Looooooooose!

*A volley of Vlandian arrows fly into the air and hit thousands of charging Battanians*


Cavalry! Charrrge!

[Latter-day Saint Batman™]

Originally posted by Runertje550:

I hate crossbows, I just dont like them, I like bows, big bows, but all factions just have small ones.

Vlandia is the most 'modern' of all factions, but why not give them an alternative to the crossbowmen ? Why not add a Vlandian Longbow Men unit, with inspiration from the English longbow men

True. Vlandia is so much like Plantagenet England if you think about it. They are based off of the Normans and Normans had longbows besides crossbows.

[Azrael]

Factions are only inspired by RL medieval kingdoms, not exact representations.

If Vlandia would have regular access to Longbow Men, they'd be basically Battania + their hard hitting cavalry, unstoppable on the battlefield, mowing down any charging enemies with ease and the rest is getting moped up by the cavalry.

Besides, nice necro.