Mount & Blade II: Bannerlord

Mount & Blade II: Bannerlord

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Geomancer Jul 8, 2020 @ 10:06am
Manor Lords
You should be embarrassed Tale Worlds, this is from a single-person developer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2mW8fmakKA

If only Bannerlord had half of the building and management features offered in this game and on-par graphics.
Last edited by Geomancer; Jul 8, 2020 @ 10:08am
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Morkonan Jul 8, 2020 @ 10:53am 
Originally posted by Idahoan:
You should be embarrassed Tale Worlds, this is from a single-person developer.
...If only Bannerlord had half of the building and management features offered in this game and on-par graphics.

But, Bannerlord isn't a "city builder" game... You're aware of that, right? You know that games can focus on different gameplay activities and that these gameplay activities help define their "genre?" You know these things?

Maybe not.
Haddon (Banned) Jul 8, 2020 @ 11:14am 
Looks good...but, as Morkonan said, totally different genre. Looks more like a Stronghold meets a bit of Total War.
The Ohio Question Jul 8, 2020 @ 11:39am 
Why would they be embarrassed over a different concept? because its also set in a "middle ages" setting?

Thats like saying mordhau makes this game ♥♥♥♥, ignoring how they are not going for the same style at all.
Geomancer Jul 8, 2020 @ 11:50am 
Yeah, just my opinion, unpopular as it may be, but they released a half-assed game that is nearly a copy of their past games with updated albeit outdated graphics, and they have a whole team to work on it. That's whats embarrassing.

They could've fired half their team, hired this dude, and blown everyone's minds.

Yes, it is a slightly different style of game, but not that different.
Last edited by Geomancer; Jul 8, 2020 @ 11:56am
The Ohio Question Jul 8, 2020 @ 11:55am 
Originally posted by Idahoan:
Yeah, just my opinion, but they released a half-assed game that is nearly a copy of their past games with outdated graphics, and they have a whole team to work on it. Thats whats embarrassing.

They could've fired half their team, hired this dude, added this to their game, and blown everyone's minds.
Rofl, oh yes, clearly its all so easy.

By all means, join there team and show us all how its done, sense you know so much
Geomancer Jul 8, 2020 @ 11:58am 
Originally posted by Who Needs Sleep:
Rofl, oh yes, clearly its all so easy.

By all means, join there team and show us all how its done, sense you know so much

I haven't made an claims that I know how its done. But the guy making Manor Lords seems to.
Just an observation
The Ohio Question Jul 8, 2020 @ 12:05pm 
Originally posted by Idahoan:
Originally posted by Who Needs Sleep:
Rofl, oh yes, clearly its all so easy.

By all means, join there team and show us all how its done, sense you know so much

I haven't made an claims that I know how its done. But the guy making Manor Lords seems to.
Just an observation
Seems to? on a game that shares nothing with bannerlord save the basic timeframe?

Manor lords looks cool, sure, but all we have to go off of is a few moments of rough gameplay and some screenshots. Thats not a clear showing of quality.

Your not one of those people who buys games off of just the trailer are you?
Morkonan Jul 8, 2020 @ 12:10pm 
Originally posted by Idahoan:
Yeah, just my opinion, but they released a half-assed game that is nearly a copy of their past games with outdated graphics, and they have a whole team to work on it. Thats whats embarrassing.

They could've fired half their team, hired this dude, added this to their game, and blown everyone's minds.

It looked like UE, so I checked.

Yup, developed with Unreal Engine.

TW built their own engine. That guy did not. (Not taking anything away from what that developer as done, just sayin'...)


I don't know where you come off saying that Bannerlord has "outdated graphics." How? Compared to some UE FPS or some game that has, at most, five or ten characters on the screen at once? Bannerlord can have hundreds of units on the screen at once, each undertaking their own actions, each using weapon-appropriate animations, with units that can have multiple types of loadouts and can, and often do, appear very differently than even other units in their same category. It uses PBR materials, too. (Physicality Based Rendering) That means that materials behave as they do in "real lighting" conditions. Metal, leather, skin (even with SSS in Bannerlord) all have appropriate values.

Do you have any idea what a display engine, even a game engine, has to be able to do in order to deal with what Bannerlord deals with in a typical battle? Outdated? Hardly.
Haddon (Banned) Jul 8, 2020 @ 12:31pm 
Originally posted by Morkonan:
Originally posted by Idahoan:
Yeah, just my opinion, but they released a half-assed game that is nearly a copy of their past games with outdated graphics, and they have a whole team to work on it. Thats whats embarrassing.

They could've fired half their team, hired this dude, added this to their game, and blown everyone's minds.

It looked like UE, so I checked.

Yup, developed with Unreal Engine.

TW built their own engine. That guy did not. (Not taking anything away from what that developer as done, just sayin'...)


I don't know where you come off saying that Bannerlord has "outdated graphics." How? Compared to some UE FPS or some game that has, at most, five or ten characters on the screen at once? Bannerlord can have hundreds of units on the screen at once, each undertaking their own actions, each using weapon-appropriate animations, with units that can have multiple types of loadouts and can, and often do, appear very differently than even other units in their same category. It uses PBR materials, too. (Physicality Based Rendering) That means that materials behave as they do in "real lighting" conditions. Metal, leather, skin (even with SSS in Bannerlord) all have appropriate values.

Do you have any idea what a display engine, even a game engine, has to be able to do in order to deal with what Bannerlord deals with in a typical battle? Outdated? Hardly.
He is very clearly going based on...well, almost nothing. He is comparing apples to...I dunno, pears? Fairly similar on absolute surface level, but still very different; different species entirely.
Morkonan Jul 8, 2020 @ 12:55pm 
Originally posted by Haddon:
... different species entirely.

Bannerlord vs Starcraft :)

"You must construct additional butter."
Originally posted by Morkonan:
Originally posted by Haddon:
... different species entirely.

Bannerlord vs Starcraft :)

"You must construct additional butter."
XP, damn it now i cant stop picturing reynor scarfing down butter...
Haddon (Banned) Jul 8, 2020 @ 2:31pm 
Originally posted by Morkonan:
Originally posted by Haddon:
... different species entirely.

Bannerlord vs Starcraft :)

"You must construct additional butter."
"We require more vespene gas," still haunts my dreams. My probes are gathering as fast as they can!
Originally posted by Haddon:
Originally posted by Morkonan:

Bannerlord vs Starcraft :)

"You must construct additional butter."
"We require more vespene gas," still haunts my dreams. My probes are gathering as fast as they can!
WE REQUIRE MORE GAS DAMN IT, THEY ARE SIX POOLING US
Ermitaum Jul 8, 2020 @ 2:46pm 
Originally posted by Haddon:
Looks good...but, as Morkonan said, totally different genre. Looks more like a Stronghold meets a bit of Total War.

That
Originally posted by Ermitaum:
Originally posted by Haddon:
Looks good...but, as Morkonan said, totally different genre. Looks more like a Stronghold meets a bit of Total War.

That
Man... i could go for a good stronghold game again, i dont know what the hell happened, but when the last good game of your series was launched in 2002....
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