Assassin's Creed Valhalla

[Poljanan]

After seeing that trailer, for once I actually thought of appreciating Bannerlord's approach to armor design because ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ the armors portrayed there was typical Hollywood nonsense. Vikings with silly leather straps and coats despite it not being winter.
When will these pop historians realize that vikings (or Danes to be specific) wore chainmail like everyone else?
We all complain about Sturgia's roster but at least they look the part.

[Zenith]

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Assassin's Creed is hardly a benchmark for realism. They're awesome games for what they are, but you shouldn't expect complete authenticity. Dual wielding for instance is also complete nonsense in the context in which it is used, but all AC games feature it heavily.

There's not expecting complete authenticity to create some artistic liberties and there's making straight up fantasy like we see here in Valhalla. AC has been like this since Origin's DLCs.

As a history lover, I can tell you straight up that nearly every AC game takes huge historical liberties, especially in terms of the aesthetics. It's always been this way, and Valhalla is nothing new in this regard.

What those games do is give you an immersive historical setting, with their own spin on the world. They do get a lot wrong, which if you are familiar with the time periods, you will spot quite quickly. But there are also so few games willing to do what AC does, that I am willing to overlook it.

[Flippy]

*Yawn*

Should have made a game about the king that crossed Hadrians wall into Italian held territory in southern England and had to see his people being abused before he later seen that wall fall.

Its actually quite a good story, because the captives taken back across the wall to work knew he was the king but the Italians didnt, but the captives said nothing.

Parts of French written King Authur a book based on parts of many tales, was based on this story.

Oh well.

By the way, in the story, nature broke Hadrians wall with an earth quake and that King freed his people.




*But why make a historical themed game based on actual history and actual people and actual real world ruins and real world reliably dated stories when Ubisoft can just make stuff up right? At this point i am wondering if they have any sense at all.

[Eclipse]

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Assassin's Creed is hardly a benchmark for realism. They're awesome games for what they are, but you shouldn't expect complete authenticity. Dual wielding for instance is also complete nonsense in the context in which it is used, but all AC games feature it heavily.

There's not expecting complete authenticity to create some artistic liberties and there's making straight up fantasy like we see here in Valhalla. AC has been like this since Origin's DLCs.

i literally LOL'd. fromt he Origins DLCs... hahaha no from DAY 1 AC has been a total historical fantasy game haahahaha. i was 15 when that came out and bought it from gamestop for my 360, and now youre gonna try to tell me those games were historically accurate? HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH

thanks for the laugh and smile

[Waclaw83]

Escrito originalmente por Poljanan:

After seeing that trailer, for once I actually thought of appreciating Bannerlord's approach to armor design because ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ the armors portrayed there was typical Hollywood nonsense. Vikings with silly leather straps and coats despite it not being winter.
When will these pop historians realize that vikings (or Danes to be specific) wore chainmail like everyone else?
We all complain about Sturgia's roster but at least they look the part.

I love my hollywood fluff. Go away :(

[Flippy]

One more thing. The only landing ships that can be found around England are Spanish, yet Ubisoft has Northern Europeans doing the invasion landings. HILARIOUS UBISOFT YOUR REALLY FUNNY.

I mean there are monuments and ruins and everything anyone could possibly imagine showing many Italian and Spanish invasions yet Ubisoft is going to make a game about Northern Europeans invading England. Really Ubisoft? Really?

[Lekker]

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What do you expect from ubisoft?

It is not an argument.

It is. They stopped caring for real history from Revelations. It all became blockbuster style pew-pew put on the same carcass of gameplay. With political agenda, were fairly decent historical persons are shown like bastards, and were pirates are nice and cool guys. So yes, what do you expect from Ubisoft? Historical accuracy?

[Egro]

Ah someone in ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ must have watched that shiety viking movie and think it's real..

[Arkhne]

I have to agree with what a lot of people have said, the decline of AC really started after Revelations. Pre-DLC Origins is the last that I can stomach from them, I finished it, and I occasionally play it JUST to roam the desert, but it's not the same calibre as, say, the Ezio Trilogy. I really, REALLY tried to deal with Odyssey, but the characters and world were total ♥♥♥♥, even by modern AC standards (and that's not to mention the woeful CPU optimisation).

I didn't even bat an eyelid when I heard they were unveiling plans for a new AC game, the franchise has completely lost me, and I've bought basically the entire series on both PS3 and PC.

As for historical accuracy, who plays AC for that? Anybody who does, doesn't really know historical accuracy. I enjoy the "history based settings" as much as anybody else, it's quite an adventure, but that's all it is, and adventure story.

[dulany67]

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cry more about it manchild.

I shall tell you what I think of you, but General Rules forbid me to do so.

I don't play Ubisoft games since Revelations. Why would I cry over another AAA cashgrab?

Odyssey was fun AF. Your loss.

[Kharn the Betrayer]

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I shall tell you what I think of you, but General Rules forbid me to do so.

I don't play Ubisoft games since Revelations. Why would I cry over another AAA cashgrab?

Odyssey was fun AF. Your loss.

don't try to reason with him.

[Poljanan]

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There's not expecting complete authenticity to create some artistic liberties and there's making straight up fantasy like we see here in Valhalla. AC has been like this since Origin's DLCs.

As a history lover, I can tell you straight up that nearly every AC game takes huge historical liberties, especially in terms of the aesthetics. It's always been this way, and Valhalla is nothing new in this regard.

What those games do is give you an immersive historical setting, with their own spin on the world. They do get a lot wrong, which if you are familiar with the time periods, you will spot quite quickly. But there are also so few games willing to do what AC does, that I am willing to overlook it.

There's still a difference. Old AC games still had very grounded looks. Valhalla, and Odyssey, all have armor designs that you'd expect from a Marvel comics movie. The anglo saxon warrior the protagonist viking fights in the trailer for example is wearing an ungodly abomination of byzantine scale mail with deformed sutton hoo facemask. They probably thought the real thing looked too goofy.

[Syllabus]

Escrito originalmente por Poljanan:

After seeing that trailer, for once I actually thought of appreciating Bannerlord's approach to armor design because ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ the armors portrayed there was typical Hollywood nonsense. Vikings with silly leather straps and coats despite it not being winter.
When will these pop historians realize that vikings (or Danes to be specific) wore chainmail like everyone else?
We all complain about Sturgia's roster but at least they look the part.

Just different directions. Nothing in AC series is really historic. It goes for fancier visuals, and does it well -- so a direct comparison is a bit unfair.

[Poljanan]

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Escrito originalmente por Poljanan:

After seeing that trailer, for once I actually thought of appreciating Bannerlord's approach to armor design because ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ the armors portrayed there was typical Hollywood nonsense. Vikings with silly leather straps and coats despite it not being winter.
When will these pop historians realize that vikings (or Danes to be specific) wore chainmail like everyone else?
We all complain about Sturgia's roster but at least they look the part.

Just different directions. Nothing in AC series is really historic. It goes for fancier visuals, and does it well -- so a direct comparison is a bit unfair.

Each to his own but oversized axes that look like toys is doing fancy stuff well? Even the highly ornate canes and knuckles in AC Syndicate felt tasteful but this one is just going overboard. I think the designs in AC Valhalla manage to even look less realistic than GoW4.

[Drackn]

Looks cool though lol.

[TuffMelon]

Assassins creed has become more and more absurdly unrealistic as the games went on. Odyssey was a joke, realism-wise. You could literally teleport behind enemies and fire homing arrows.