Mount & Blade II: Bannerlord

Mount & Blade II: Bannerlord

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Supply Side Jesus 2020 年 4 月 28 日 下午 8:20
Loot is all trash in any battle?
I just won a defensive siege against overwhelming odds - 300 vs 1200. Attacking army was heavy on recruits, ram got smashed, and garrison had a lot of upgraded crossbowman. This was one of the few towns where ladders are placed upfront and were absolutely killing zones.

I got 30ish renown and so on.

Loot on other hand was junk. So many bent/rusty. Not a single high tier armor, one rusted tier 6 weapon... but stacks and stacks of rags and torn shoes.

I understand developers wanting us to work for our gear, but at this point it is too unrewarding. Please fix it.
引用自 Ensign:
引用自 Supply Side Jesus

Can you elaborate?

Yes.

Next to every item on the far right (when in a shop) is a round button you can click, that is the Lock button. So you want to sell all your junk but keep all your horses, food, certain weapons and armors? Simply click the button on all the things you dont wanna sell.

Then at the top of the screen next to your name are a double arrow fast foward looking button. That is the "Sell all" button.

Since you locked everything you wanted to keep (and is persistant when you exit the screen) then using the sell all button will sell all your loot.

Simple, easy, done in one second.

The only flaw with the lock feature is that while it is persistant (once you lock an item it stays locked so you cant accidentally sell it) things like food wont be if you run out of them. So if you lock cheese, but your men ate all the cheese, when you buy more cheese it isnt auto locked, got to lock it again before selling all ur junk in one click.

But there is a mod for making the lock more persistant so thats cool.
https://www.nexusmods.com/mountandblade2bannerlord/mods/445?tab=files&file_id=2158
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Supply Side Jesus 2020 年 4 月 29 日 上午 4:51 
引用自 Ensign

Yeah everything has "rusty" or "worn" now but it does still sell for decent amounts.

I don't want my very rarely happening drop to be "rust" or "worn". Good weapons used to drop frequently after large battles. Now it is all junk.
Ensign 2020 年 4 月 29 日 下午 9:15 
引用自 kbmodigity

Umm so you don't like the leaders of the party's skills determine how the the party should function?

Do you want a democracy in this medieval society within thier army and they can all talk about it and hold hands and sing peace songs?

Its not about that.

Every rpg is about you. You are the savoir. Only you can kill the dragon. Only you can save the princess. You are the most powerful hero who can do it all.

Mount and Blade wants to show us another way to play.

In M&B its about the party and the people you assemble. Its a game where you cant do it all alone, you need help. You need an army, and a talented retinue of sergeants/lieutenants to take care of things like tracking, medical needs, looting, ect. Its a game that says you wouldn't last all alone. You cant be responsible for every single aspect of everything from yourself, your army, the kingdom, ect.

Would you want to make a character focused on tracking and looting? What about command? What about personal fighting ability? What about trade?

Companions should be doing something other than just being a "hero" unit on the battlefield. In the last game they contributed much. If you wanna talk real life about medieval society not having democratic systems then consider that kings didnt do all the tracking themselves, didnt administer medical attention themselves, didnt handle all the trade and provision procurement themselves ect.

I dont think your comment is very fair to what he was saying is all. Got to see the bigger picture.
pfroddam 2020 年 4 月 29 日 下午 9:19 
I have gotten great loot myself, rarely the best available of what the enemy were using, but sometimes something truly awesome survives...I have managed to equip myself and a few companions in gear from lords and top tier troops entirely after three battles in the past.
pfroddam 2020 年 4 月 29 日 下午 9:21 
引用自 Ensign
引用自 kbmodigity

Umm so you don't like the leaders of the party's skills determine how the the party should function?

Do you want a democracy in this medieval society within thier army and they can all talk about it and hold hands and sing peace songs?

Its not about that.

Every rpg is about you. You are the savoir. Only you can kill the dragon. Only you can save the princess. You are the most powerful hero who can do it all.

Mount and Blade wants to show us another way to play.

In M&B its about the party and the people you assemble. Its a game where you cant do it all alone, you need help. You need an army, and a talented retinue of sergeants/lieutenants to take care of things like tracking, medical needs, looting, ect. Its a game that says you wouldn't last all alone. You cant be responsible for every single aspect of everything from yourself, your army, the kingdom, ect.

Would you want to make a character focused on tracking and looting? What about command? What about personal fighting ability? What about trade?

Companions should be doing something other than just being a "hero" unit on the battlefield. In the last game they contributed much. If you wanna talk real life about medieval society not having democratic systems then consider that kings didnt do all the tracking themselves, didnt administer medical attention themselves, didnt handle all the trade and provision procurement themselves ect.

I dont think your comment is very fair to what he was saying is all. Got to see the bigger picture.
And to add to this, team members contributing to the team is not about koombyah, its about performing your role within the team :)
最後修改者:pfroddam; 2020 年 4 月 29 日 下午 9:21
kbmodigity 2020 年 4 月 29 日 下午 9:54 
引用自 Ensign
引用自 kbmodigity

Umm so you don't like the leaders of the party's skills determine how the the party should function?

Do you want a democracy in this medieval society within thier army and they can all talk about it and hold hands and sing peace songs?

Its not about that.

Every rpg is about you. You are the savoir. Only you can kill the dragon. Only you can save the princess. You are the most powerful hero who can do it all.

Mount and Blade wants to show us another way to play.

In M&B its about the party and the people you assemble. Its a game where you cant do it all alone, you need help. You need an army, and a talented retinue of sergeants/lieutenants to take care of things like tracking, medical needs, looting, ect. Its a game that says you wouldn't last all alone. You cant be responsible for every single aspect of everything from yourself, your army, the kingdom, ect.

Would you want to make a character focused on tracking and looting? What about command? What about personal fighting ability? What about trade?

Companions should be doing something other than just being a "hero" unit on the battlefield. In the last game they contributed much. If you wanna talk real life about medieval society not having democratic systems then consider that kings didnt do all the tracking themselves, didnt administer medical attention themselves, didnt handle all the trade and provision procurement themselves ect.

I dont think your comment is very fair to what he was saying is all. Got to see the bigger picture.

Well this was posted by Rig Nan Roach: and what I was responding to.

"There are aspects of that I miss.... Some of it was abusable, like I used to run with everyone training, and I could basically train up troops without even fighting to a certain degree. Probably not ideal.

But I don't really feel the need to max out every single stat and skill on my character in order to make a PARTY function. It kind of defeats the purpose of even HAVING a party when so many of the buffs are only personal or clan leader based."

He admits wanting ABBUSABLE exploits. They also want to not have to learn skills to have parties or those party leaders learning skills to function at 100%.

Person I responded to is his/her own person. Please don't answer for them as you are not them. You have no clue what they think nor do you have the right to say anything on their behalf.

Wise man knows: There is troll bait, and there are trolls. Don't fall for either of them.
Jack Niggleson 2020 年 4 月 29 日 下午 10:12 
引用自 DanTheTTT™
There are things to well get better loots.

1st: The enemy that you are up against with (Their tiers and how many nobles)
2nd: Your Rogue Skill matters, those 10-20% buff do help to get better loot.

So to get better loot, just harass them big boys army with higher tier or higher odds than you.
I usually get around 2k-10k worth of loots from spoils of war each time I fought party of 200 and above.

Tbf I played a fairly high roguery character during my last playthrough and the only real difference I ever noticed between 0 and roughly 110 roguery was a higher quantity of gear, not quality. Even in giant battles where the enemy lost dozens (sometimes hundreds) of t5-6 units it would be the same low end gear, just more of it. It also seemed to drastically increase the number of horses that dropped, but beyond that it did nothing.

T6 weapons and armor I've always had to buy (if and when they eventually spawn in shops) or steal from my wife.
Ensign 2020 年 4 月 30 日 上午 10:09 
引用自 kbmodigity
Well this was posted by Rig Nan Roach: and what I was responding to.

"There are aspects of that I miss.... Some of it was abusable, like I used to run with everyone training, and I could basically train up troops without even fighting to a certain degree. Probably not ideal.

He admits wanting ABBUSABLE exploits. They also want to not have to learn skills to have parties or those party leaders learning skills to function at 100%.

Person I responded to is his/her own person. Please don't answer for them as you are not them. You have no clue what they think nor do you have the right to say anything on their behalf.

Wise man knows: There is troll bait, and there are trolls. Don't fall for either of them.

He isnt a troll though. Its true i dont know his intentions but read it again for yourself.
"there are aspects that i miss.....some abusable. Probably not ideal.

He (like i do) misses the great old system from before. But laments that some of it was indeed abusable. And that is not ideal. Hes advocating for the old system while acknowledging that it was flawed.

He didnt admit to wanting to abuse the system. Only that he did abuse it but in his words "it wasnt ideal".

Your answer to him was a sarcastic real life comparison of our medieval period completely dissmissing his opinion without considering what he was saying. Thats why i "answered for him". I was getting you to try to read again and consider what he was saying.

The old system was better in alot of ways, even if it was flawed.

I definitely prefer this new system in the way we engage with it, talent points giving us a multiplier for xp is an inspired mechanic. But the way the system rewards us atm is worse than warband. The skill perks matter more than the skills themselves and are far too fragmented in sub categories like "personal" or "party leader".

Thats why the guy you were responding to and myself like the old system, because it was more rewarding if a bit more shallow.
Supply Side Jesus 2020 年 4 月 30 日 下午 1:53 
Another big field battle - 2 armies on my side, 300ish and 1 mega-stack of 600 on enemy side. TONS of high-tier troops on both sides. Lords alone were entire squadron.

Loot?

Rusty. Torn. Rags.

NOT A SINGLE USEFUL ITEM for my Tier 5 geared main with Tier 4 party.

This is broken. Why bother with loot system at all if it is ALL ALWAYS JUNK?!
MisterSpock 2020 年 4 月 30 日 下午 2:13 
引用自 Teralitha
引用自 Kombucho

It doesnt matter. Loot has been crap since they changed something a few updates ago,.
Of course that matter, lol. Tier 5 units are rare atm.
Urmel 2020 年 4 月 30 日 下午 2:13 
i have no problem to find only trash-loot after every battle. i can sell all the items in the next town...

but what is extremly disappointing /frustrating, that all the towns sell trash-loot. 2 mio gold and i cant buy any good armor or weapon.
Old man Stu 2020 年 4 月 30 日 下午 6:26 
Agreed.
The loot from fighting proper armies in this game is hardly even a step up from the Looter trash drops.
All night I have been dropping lords and their armies - some of them had a fair few top tier troops - and the best loot I got was a 400gp pair of boots. Absolutely tons of cloth armour ♥♥♥♥♥, trash tier arm wrappings, garbage short spears .. absolutely nothing that would suggest I had been killing Legionarys, Triari, Skova, etc.
No idea what they have done but the loot tables need a massive overhaul.
Nuke Knight 2020 年 4 月 30 日 下午 6:37 
Rouge level will get you better gear, thats about the only use of that skill tree. Boost it up by ransoming prisoners.
Urmel 2020 年 4 月 30 日 下午 9:03 
引用自 Nuke Knight
Rouge level will get you better gear, thats about the only use of that skill tree. Boost it up by ransoming prisoners.

i have billion bandits in my army and selling billions prisoners, but my char is lvl 21 and have 42 in rouge-lvl. so it is impossible increasing rouge whitout raiding villages, but that would ruin my relationship.

again: it should be possible to buy good equipment in the towns if it doesnt drop.
AlphaAlphaAlpha 2020 年 4 月 30 日 下午 9:21 
It could also just be something the devs haven't gotten to yet.
A couple of patches back there was a problem with tier 6 loot dropping in the market, so I'm sure this is probably something they'll get to eventually.
Super Cosmic Space Magnet 2020 年 4 月 30 日 下午 9:22 
You got to fight a defensive siege..? :O
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