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I don't want my very rarely happening drop to be "rust" or "worn". Good weapons used to drop frequently after large battles. Now it is all junk.
Its not about that.
Every rpg is about you. You are the savoir. Only you can kill the dragon. Only you can save the princess. You are the most powerful hero who can do it all.
Mount and Blade wants to show us another way to play.
In M&B its about the party and the people you assemble. Its a game where you cant do it all alone, you need help. You need an army, and a talented retinue of sergeants/lieutenants to take care of things like tracking, medical needs, looting, ect. Its a game that says you wouldn't last all alone. You cant be responsible for every single aspect of everything from yourself, your army, the kingdom, ect.
Would you want to make a character focused on tracking and looting? What about command? What about personal fighting ability? What about trade?
Companions should be doing something other than just being a "hero" unit on the battlefield. In the last game they contributed much. If you wanna talk real life about medieval society not having democratic systems then consider that kings didnt do all the tracking themselves, didnt administer medical attention themselves, didnt handle all the trade and provision procurement themselves ect.
I dont think your comment is very fair to what he was saying is all. Got to see the bigger picture.
Well this was posted by Rig Nan Roach: and what I was responding to.
"There are aspects of that I miss.... Some of it was abusable, like I used to run with everyone training, and I could basically train up troops without even fighting to a certain degree. Probably not ideal.
But I don't really feel the need to max out every single stat and skill on my character in order to make a PARTY function. It kind of defeats the purpose of even HAVING a party when so many of the buffs are only personal or clan leader based."
He admits wanting ABBUSABLE exploits. They also want to not have to learn skills to have parties or those party leaders learning skills to function at 100%.
Person I responded to is his/her own person. Please don't answer for them as you are not them. You have no clue what they think nor do you have the right to say anything on their behalf.
Wise man knows: There is troll bait, and there are trolls. Don't fall for either of them.
Tbf I played a fairly high roguery character during my last playthrough and the only real difference I ever noticed between 0 and roughly 110 roguery was a higher quantity of gear, not quality. Even in giant battles where the enemy lost dozens (sometimes hundreds) of t5-6 units it would be the same low end gear, just more of it. It also seemed to drastically increase the number of horses that dropped, but beyond that it did nothing.
T6 weapons and armor I've always had to buy (if and when they eventually spawn in shops) or steal from my wife.
He isnt a troll though. Its true i dont know his intentions but read it again for yourself.
"there are aspects that i miss.....some abusable. Probably not ideal.
He (like i do) misses the great old system from before. But laments that some of it was indeed abusable. And that is not ideal. Hes advocating for the old system while acknowledging that it was flawed.
He didnt admit to wanting to abuse the system. Only that he did abuse it but in his words "it wasnt ideal".
Your answer to him was a sarcastic real life comparison of our medieval period completely dissmissing his opinion without considering what he was saying. Thats why i "answered for him". I was getting you to try to read again and consider what he was saying.
The old system was better in alot of ways, even if it was flawed.
I definitely prefer this new system in the way we engage with it, talent points giving us a multiplier for xp is an inspired mechanic. But the way the system rewards us atm is worse than warband. The skill perks matter more than the skills themselves and are far too fragmented in sub categories like "personal" or "party leader".
Thats why the guy you were responding to and myself like the old system, because it was more rewarding if a bit more shallow.
Loot?
Rusty. Torn. Rags.
NOT A SINGLE USEFUL ITEM for my Tier 5 geared main with Tier 4 party.
This is broken. Why bother with loot system at all if it is ALL ALWAYS JUNK?!
but what is extremly disappointing /frustrating, that all the towns sell trash-loot. 2 mio gold and i cant buy any good armor or weapon.
The loot from fighting proper armies in this game is hardly even a step up from the Looter trash drops.
All night I have been dropping lords and their armies - some of them had a fair few top tier troops - and the best loot I got was a 400gp pair of boots. Absolutely tons of cloth armour ♥♥♥♥♥, trash tier arm wrappings, garbage short spears .. absolutely nothing that would suggest I had been killing Legionarys, Triari, Skova, etc.
No idea what they have done but the loot tables need a massive overhaul.
i have billion bandits in my army and selling billions prisoners, but my char is lvl 21 and have 42 in rouge-lvl. so it is impossible increasing rouge whitout raiding villages, but that would ruin my relationship.
again: it should be possible to buy good equipment in the towns if it doesnt drop.
A couple of patches back there was a problem with tier 6 loot dropping in the market, so I'm sure this is probably something they'll get to eventually.