1.3.0 No more charm XP?

[Technech]

So they say in patchnote they fixed a bug giving huge amount of charm XP when talking to headman in tutorial. As i always just skip it, I did not know. But now I dont get anny charm XP form annything. Instead of fixing a bug, they broke an hole skill!!!!!!!!! (I waited 8 years for this, eight years in Azkaban!)

[Trip]

It comes MUCH slower now.

It will raise as you complete quests for people.

You can't offer 1 gold as a gift to random nobles and get free xp anymore...

[GutturalWail]

I think that for a bit it was too easy to get charm, but currently the only reliable way to get exp on it is to release captured enemy lords and such. Gifting people items is too nerf'd in my opinion. you can give someone a national treasury and get next to no charm or increased relations.

[JarethKeltacy]

Have to agree that it's pretty much broken the Charm skill at to some character concepts. As if having the main way to raise it being beating people up and then releasing them it goes against the concept of a social character somewhat.
While the 1 gold did seem a little easy it did at least require you to tack down and speak to a lot of lords which felt more right than the current methods of raising it.

[Tazmo]

If I remember right, when I took out a forest bandit hideout I got 5 or 6 points of charm in
version 1.3

[Xarduvik]

How to 'currently' raise your charm. Please note, this may be patched to nerf or stop, but it has served me well. Get as many focus points into the Charm skill as possible, as early as possible. It helps big time in the early portion of the game.

1. Gift money to Lords and Ladies. The more money given, the larger the charm bonus, but the bonus rate does flatten a lot after 50,000 gold. I usually gift 20K and nab a level or two when it's early in skill building.

2. Get married. Bargain with your spouse. Leave the item section blank and just 'gift' thin air. You'll get a level of charm every time up to level 50ish. You still get Charm experience when you stop earning levels with a conversation, it's just not enough to raise it up. It adds up, keep doing it.

3. Attack and kill a hideout, BUT, you will get the best Charm bonus by dueling the final boss. Don't say you won't duel bandits or whatever and let your companions/soldiers gang up on them, just duel the boss and win, and you'll get three to four levels early on, up to one level per win in higher level ranges.

4. Minor bonus to Charm experience when you talk to village elders and you politely ask their name. Any other response won't give the tiny bonus. Yes, it's small, but it adds up over time. Sometimes you get bonus rep by being polite to them as well.

[NM9G]

Originally posted by JarethKeltacy:

Have to agree that it's pretty much broken the Charm skill at to some character concepts. As if having the main way to raise it being beating people up and then releasing them it goes against the concept of a social character somewhat.
While the 1 gold did seem a little easy it did at least require you to tack down and speak to a lot of lords which felt more right than the current methods of raising it.

Yeah currently it seems like they removed the only reliable way to level up your charm if that is the case.
But too be fair going up to every lord you see and tossing them a coin was very tedious and not really a good mechanic, not broken or OP, just not a good mechanic.
They just need to add more ways to get more charm reliably if the player wants it, as they did just remove the main source of charm leveling.

[The Devil]

I think Charm is linked directly to reputation gain now that I think about it, I have never gotten charm without something that also gave me reputation.