[Mod Request?] Actual Shield Wall?

[Erabior]

So currently in game the shield-wall just makes the dudes standing there with shields up, block arrows and just take blows, they really don't attack except for the one or two times that a dude breaks Shield wall and attacks. what I want to know is if we can make an actual Shield wall like an actual Dane or Saxon shield-wall (much like we see from “The last Kingdom” TV Show). All in all I think it'd be really cool if we could have a Dane Shield wall or even a Dane Shield wall in circle to form some sort of Dome tortoise formation. I'm just trying to see if something like this is even possible so if anybody knows it'd be great thank you all.

[Booba]

An *actual* shield wall. From a television show.

[Erabior]

Originally posted by Scuba Steve:

An *actual* shield wall. From a television show.

Originally posted by Erabior:

Dane or Saxon shield-wall (much like we see from “The last Kingdom” TV Show)

much like we see

god all of the internet is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ troll bath. Also that show is a dramatization of the begining of the forming of England by Alfred the Great, King of Wessex you absolute dinger donger

[Bumbleton]

I agree, they could be a little bit more... useful. As it is, units don't change position either. All those shmucks with two-handeded weapons are standing at the front absorbing arrows.

[Monk]

With the vladian infantry line, especially the sergeants, I find they hold a shield wall well and tend to kick the crap out if anyone dumb enough to try and break it, I would love it if I could get pike men to work over their shoulders though, as it is, the only troops I use are sergeants, sharpshooter and Knights, well, plus their little bris who aren't quite there yet.

[NotoriousNix]

Originally posted by Monk:

With the vladian infantry line, especially the sergeants, I find they hold a shield wall well and tend to kick the crap out if anyone dumb enough to try and break it, I would love it if I could get pike men to work over their shoulders though, as it is, the only troops I use are sergeants, sharpshooter and Knights, well, plus their little bris who aren't quite there yet.

Same with the empire legions with the huge shields.

[Booba]

Originally posted by Erabior:

god all of the internet is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ troll bath. Also that show is a dramatization of the begining of the forming of England by Alfred the Great, King of Wessex you absolute dinger donger

Do you think William Wallace wore a kilt and stopped a charge of English knights with spears, long spears, twice as long as a man?

The shield wall in Bannerlord is closer to the real thing than the half-testudo goofery you've seen on TV.

Originally posted by Lord Bumbleton:

I agree, they could be a little bit more... useful. As it is, units don't change position either. All those shmucks with two-handeded weapons are standing at the front absorbing arrows.

You can move your two-handers to a group other than infantry in the party management menu. Place the infantry in shield wall, place them in front of the two-handers.

It would be awesome if the shield wall formation did sensible organization like this on its own, natively though; I'm with you there.

[Erabior]

Originally posted by Scuba Steve:

Originally posted by Erabior:

god all of the internet is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ troll bath. Also that show is a dramatization of the begining of the forming of England by Alfred the Great, King of Wessex you absolute dinger donger

Do you think William Wallace wore a kilt and stopped a charge of English knights with spears, long spears, twice as long as a man?

The shield wall in Bannerlord is closer to the real thing than the half-testudo goofery you've seen on TV.

this has nothing to do with william wallace and i dont know how that makes any sense. It has everything to do with the fact that a shield wall, an ACTUAL shied wall as a row or more of interlocking shields. which is not what happens in game, and if you think a good commander said "ok just stand there and um idk raise your shields and um block or whatever" you are the absolute dumbest person on the planet. if you want facts then here you go stupid. The battle of Edington Alfred the Greak, King of Wessax fought an army of Pagan invaders and it was the strength of the shield wall that stood between a free Anglo Wessax and whatever hell-scape the coutnry would have descended into if the Danes won

Literally all the troops in the game do is raise shield to prioritize blocking of blows and arrows. if you want to come in here and go "oh lol imma show this fool, the shield wall is myth and no one used it" the 1) your wrong stupid and ignorant and 2) i will prove you wrong. this is a game, set in a fictional land with fictional kingdoms, if people want a more substantial shield wall who the hell are you to come in here and try (and fail) to be some sort of self proclaimed scholar of viking era warfare. because you are clearly not

[Storm Runner]

id like it if a pike line you know destroyed cav charges like front chargeing a pike wall was basicly impossable

[Bumbleton]

Originally posted by Scuba Steve:

Originally posted by Erabior:

god all of the internet is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ troll bath. Also that show is a dramatization of the begining of the forming of England by Alfred the Great, King of Wessex you absolute dinger donger

Do you think William Wallace wore a kilt and stopped a charge of English knights with spears, long spears, twice as long as a man?

The shield wall in Bannerlord is closer to the real thing than the half-testudo goofery you've seen on TV.

Originally posted by Lord Bumbleton:

I agree, they could be a little bit more... useful. As it is, units don't change position either. All those shmucks with two-handeded weapons are standing at the front absorbing arrows.

You can move your two-handers to a group other than infantry in the party management menu. Place the infantry in shield wall, place them in front of the two-handers.

It would be awesome if the shield wall formation did sensible organization like this on its own, natively though; I'm with you there.

I know i can do it myself. Its just annoying doing it over and over again, as it resets after every save, or if i just happen to lose that specific soldier. Likewise, The AI doesn't do this, so if im part of an army, i just see all of my two-handers get mulched, or watch it happen to the enemy.

[Egro]

Originally posted by DBDstorm runner:

id like it if a pike line you know destroyed cav charges like front chargeing a pike wall was basicly impossable

Then the Winged hussars arrive intensify.

[mw00]

You know that formations are separate from movement commands? Tell them to raise shields and then charge.

@edit lmao I watched that shield wall scene you mentioned and it has a guy jumping over it and killing people without anyone trying to stop him. Nice garbage you watch.

[Rose]

Originally posted by Egro:

Originally posted by DBDstorm runner:

id like it if a pike line you know destroyed cav charges like front chargeing a pike wall was basicly impossable

Then the Winged hussars arrive intensify.

"Venimus, vidimus, Deus vicit"
Haha
https://youtu.be/75zmIj_4LFQ

[Khamal]

So ignoring all the idiot replies, and i love the show kingdom though lololol

If you want in your terms, a proper shield wall, use imperial legionaries, mine have no problem lining up and attacking between the gaps/they use maces and swords, back ones will thrust with swords, fronts will use maces generally you can further this by standing pikemen behind the shield line, effectively making a wall defense, as legionaries shields are tear drop forms
but alas, you will get no top covering shield wall lol

@error, he jumps over without harm because he was a saxon and a dane, so they hesitate(adopted son of a earl)

[FleerZ]

Well, i had this similar issue as well. Infantry unit without shield try to tank volley of arrows, well good luck then. Then i move those without shield in their own group which effective but tedious AF to organize in battle.

Heres what the dev/modder might want to add: prioritize those with shield in front of formation especially when shield wall is called. And when shield wall is called, hold the effin line until being told otherwise.

[your opinion is wrong]

yeah when I do the shield wall command my guys just put their shields up, it would be nice if the shields actually got into the front ranks or something, cuz most of the times when I do shield wall all my recruits are at the front and they die